What have we learned from all this?

Gregg Ballou wrote on 2/21/2021 10:15 AM:

Yes, indeed: if "The vaccine is more deadly than cov-aids", there would've been about 140,000
deaths (1%) from the vaccinations, yet there were only a thousand or so deaths after the
vaccinations, and none were attributed to the vaccine.
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Deaths of any cause where cov-aids was possibly present scored as a cov-aids kill. All deaths post vaccination scored as other than a vaccination kill. You guys are disappointing. Sad thing is the vaccine 'might' be useful for health if it reduced fear, solely by the health benefits of not living scared, but the pubic health people say you still need to be afraid after getting jabbed.

You are ignoring the excess deaths and unusually large number of hospitalizations during the
last 12 months. These can not be explained by misreported causes of death. Those of us who take
the CDC recommendations seriously are not living in fear, anymore than glider pilots wearing
parachutes are living in fear: it is a sensible response to a real problem. I hope you will
wear a parachute in the air and a mask on the ground.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

President Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously declared, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

How naïve. If he had only realized how fear could be such a useful tool for those in power. Merely by promoting fear, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights can be tossed in the trash. The precedent has been set so that in the future, the citizenry can be ordered to behave like sheep, with the most sheep-ish recruited to chastise, shame and otherwise finger-wag the rest of us into compliance.

"Independence Day" will now only be referred to as "July 4." However, the anniversary of the date the Government declared an emergency for a virus with a 99.8% SURVIVAL rate will be hereafter "celebrated" as "Dependence Day," with festivities canceled and all citizens ordered to spend 24 hours in a Styrofoam box with CNN or MSNBC on the tube. Failure to observe this "holiday" will result in having your work declared non-essential and your "emergency benefits" curtailed.

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:07:46 PM UTC-5, Mark Mocho wrote:
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously declared, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

How naïve. If he had only realized how fear could be such a useful tool for those in power. Merely by promoting fear, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights can be tossed in the trash. The precedent has been set so that in the future, the citizenry can be ordered to behave like sheep, with the most sheep-ish recruited to chastise, shame and otherwise finger-wag the rest of us into compliance.

"Independence Day" will now only be referred to as "July 4." However, the anniversary of the date the Government declared an emergency for a virus with a 99.8% SURVIVAL rate will be hereafter "celebrated" as "Dependence Day," with festivities canceled and all citizens ordered to spend 24 hours in a Styrofoam box with CNN or MSNBC on the tube. Failure to observe this "holiday" will result in having your work declared non-essential and your "emergency benefits" curtailed.

Well stated!

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:53:40 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:07:46 PM UTC-5, Mark Mocho wrote:
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously declared, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

How naïve. If he had only realized how fear could be such a useful tool for those in power. Merely by promoting fear, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights can be tossed in the trash. The precedent has been set so that in the future, the citizenry can be ordered to behave like sheep, with the most sheep-ish recruited to chastise, shame and otherwise finger-wag the rest of us into compliance.

"Independence Day" will now only be referred to as "July 4." However, the anniversary of the date the Government declared an emergency for a virus with a 99.8% SURVIVAL rate will be hereafter "celebrated" as "Dependence Day," with festivities canceled and all citizens ordered to spend 24 hours in a Styrofoam box with CNN or MSNBC on the tube. Failure to observe this "holiday" will result in having your work declared non-essential and your "emergency benefits" curtailed.
Well stated!
As Eric said "You are ignoring the excess deaths and unusually large number of hospitalizations during the
last 12 months. These can not be explained by misreported causes of death. "
We seem to be a very selfish people, looking only at "what is the immediate risk to me personally" and ignoring (or dismissing) the risk to the infrastructure that supports us. Sign

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:53:40 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:07:46 PM UTC-5, Mark Mocho wrote:
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously declared, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

How naïve. If he had only realized how fear could be such a useful tool for those in power. Merely by promoting fear, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights can be tossed in the trash. The precedent has been set so that in the future, the citizenry can be ordered to behave like sheep, with the most sheep-ish recruited to chastise, shame and otherwise finger-wag the rest of us into compliance.

"Independence Day" will now only be referred to as "July 4." However, the anniversary of the date the Government declared an emergency for a virus with a 99.8% SURVIVAL rate will be hereafter "celebrated" as "Dependence Day," with festivities canceled and all citizens ordered to spend 24 hours in a Styrofoam box with CNN or MSNBC on the tube. Failure to observe this "holiday" will result in having your work declared non-essential and your "emergency benefits" curtailed.
Well stated!

John Godfrey
7:37 PM (1 minute ago)
to
As Eric said "You are ignoring the excess deaths and unusually large number of hospitalizations during the
last 12 months. These can not be explained by misreported causes of death. "
We seem to be a very selfish people, looking only at "what is the immediate risk to me personally" and ignoring (or dismissing as not real) the risk to the infrastructure that supports us. Sigh

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:41:13 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:53:40 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:07:46 PM UTC-5, Mark Mocho wrote:
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously declared, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

How naïve. If he had only realized how fear could be such a useful tool for those in power. Merely by promoting fear, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights can be tossed in the trash. The precedent has been set so that in the future, the citizenry can be ordered to behave like sheep, with the most sheep-ish recruited to chastise, shame and otherwise finger-wag the rest of us into compliance.

"Independence Day" will now only be referred to as "July 4." However, the anniversary of the date the Government declared an emergency for a virus with a 99.8% SURVIVAL rate will be hereafter "celebrated" as "Dependence Day," with festivities canceled and all citizens ordered to spend 24 hours in a Styrofoam box with CNN or MSNBC on the tube. Failure to observe this "holiday" will result in having your work declared non-essential and your "emergency benefits" curtailed.
Well stated!
John Godfrey
7:37 PM (1 minute ago)
to
As Eric said "You are ignoring the excess deaths and unusually large number of hospitalizations during the
last 12 months. These can not be explained by misreported causes of death.. "
We seem to be a very selfish people, looking only at "what is the immediate risk to me personally" and ignoring (or dismissing as not real) the risk to the infrastructure that supports us. Sigh


I was never really worried about getting sick with the Sars 2 virus, although I did get tested once because my wife came in contact with infected clients through her work as did my son, who lives at home. I recently received both Pfizer vaccines. The second one gave me mild to moderate flu syptoms for 3 days or so. A physician friend works in the ICU at the local University Hospital ICU ward, and it has been a horror show for her. I think it is wise to get vaccinated to speed up the herd immunity, if not to protect yourself.

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 8:11:14 PM UTC-5, Mike Carris wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:41:13 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:53:40 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:07:46 PM UTC-5, Mark Mocho wrote:
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously declared, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

How naïve. If he had only realized how fear could be such a useful tool for those in power. Merely by promoting fear, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights can be tossed in the trash. The precedent has been set so that in the future, the citizenry can be ordered to behave like sheep, with the most sheep-ish recruited to chastise, shame and otherwise finger-wag the rest of us into compliance.

"Independence Day" will now only be referred to as "July 4." However, the anniversary of the date the Government declared an emergency for a virus with a 99.8% SURVIVAL rate will be hereafter "celebrated" as "Dependence Day," with festivities canceled and all citizens ordered to spend 24 hours in a Styrofoam box with CNN or MSNBC on the tube. Failure to observe this "holiday" will result in having your work declared non-essential and your "emergency benefits" curtailed.
Well stated!
John Godfrey
7:37 PM (1 minute ago)
to
As Eric said "You are ignoring the excess deaths and unusually large number of hospitalizations during the
last 12 months. These can not be explained by misreported causes of death. "
We seem to be a very selfish people, looking only at "what is the immediate risk to me personally" and ignoring (or dismissing as not real) the risk to the infrastructure that supports us. Sigh
I was never really worried about getting sick with the Sars 2 virus, although I did get tested once because my wife came in contact with infected clients through her work as did my son, who lives at home. I recently received both Pfizer vaccines. The second one gave me mild to moderate flu syptoms for 3 days or so. A physician friend works in the ICU at the local University Hospital ICU ward, and it has been a horror show for her. I think it is wise to get vaccinated to speed up the herd immunity, if not to protect yourself.

I also have been concerned, because the numbers speak for themselves lets face it, Florida has been and still is a hotbed. The numbers seem to go up and down like an OLC trace. After 40 years my wife basically walked away from the dental office, we both felt concerned about the possibility of infection. Taking the jab was and is the only logical thing to do that can provide some degree of protection. Am I still concerned, yes, has this pandemic altered most everyone's lives, yes.
After my first jab I did have an ich that I feel was associated with the vaccine, after speaking with my neighbor he stated that he had the same type reaction that lasted for about three days. I am set to get my second jab on March 6th, guess I will be expecting some type of reaction as well, but I also hope that it provides a bigger degree of protection.

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 10:44:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 8:11:14 PM UTC-5, Mike Carris wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:41:13 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:53:40 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:07:46 PM UTC-5, Mark Mocho wrote:
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt famously declared, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

How naïve. If he had only realized how fear could be such a useful tool for those in power. Merely by promoting fear, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights can be tossed in the trash. The precedent has been set so that in the future, the citizenry can be ordered to behave like sheep, with the most sheep-ish recruited to chastise, shame and otherwise finger-wag the rest of us into compliance.

"Independence Day" will now only be referred to as "July 4." However, the anniversary of the date the Government declared an emergency for a virus with a 99.8% SURVIVAL rate will be hereafter "celebrated" as "Dependence Day," with festivities canceled and all citizens ordered to spend 24 hours in a Styrofoam box with CNN or MSNBC on the tube. Failure to observe this "holiday" will result in having your work declared non-essential and your "emergency benefits" curtailed.
Well stated!
John Godfrey
7:37 PM (1 minute ago)
to
As Eric said "You are ignoring the excess deaths and unusually large number of hospitalizations during the
last 12 months. These can not be explained by misreported causes of death. "
We seem to be a very selfish people, looking only at "what is the immediate risk to me personally" and ignoring (or dismissing as not real) the risk to the infrastructure that supports us. Sigh
I was never really worried about getting sick with the Sars 2 virus, although I did get tested once because my wife came in contact with infected clients through her work as did my son, who lives at home. I recently received both Pfizer vaccines. The second one gave me mild to moderate flu syptoms for 3 days or so. A physician friend works in the ICU at the local University Hospital ICU ward, and it has been a horror show for her. I think it is wise to get vaccinated to speed up the herd immunity, if not to protect yourself.
I also have been concerned, because the numbers speak for themselves lets face it, Florida has been and still is a hotbed. The numbers seem to go up and down like an OLC trace. After 40 years my wife basically walked away from the dental office, we both felt concerned about the possibility of infection. Taking the jab was and is the only logical thing to do that can provide some degree of protection. Am I still concerned, yes, has this pandemic altered most everyone's lives, yes.
After my first jab I did have an ich that I feel was associated with the vaccine, after speaking with my neighbor he stated that he had the same type reaction that lasted for about three days. I am set to get my second jab on March 6th, guess I will be expecting some type of reaction as well, but I also hope that it provides a bigger degree of protection.
Bob why do you believe the numbers when so much related to cov-aids has been dishonest? Might they not be trying to rule you with fear? Where is the logic of taking an unproven genetic modification treatment? Does anyone prefer GMO food? So then why would you GMO yourself with the jab?