Aw ****s and Bravo Zulus

Stephen- The Skippers that I had were Frog Allen, Bear Voght, BRBR

Wait a minute, we were in VF-33 at the same time, Allen was CO when I was
there, followed by Steve Phimister. John Voght took over as XO from Rabbit
Campbell in VF-151(?)..

Red Best was ComFitFud when I was XO of VX-4..he got me VF-126...

stephen Your 'snuffed A/B, compressor stall' cat shot, I assume was in an
F-4,
saw PLAT footage
of an '84 F-14 do the same, stall, roll inverted, aircrew punched (late)
vertically into water,
bird coming down on top of them. You've probably seen the same film. BRBR

Was 'the' training folm for the F-14 RAG as to what not to do if you lost an
engine on cat shot in the Turley'...

I just went off flat, RIO 'mentioned' for me to rotate, I pulled back and
promptly 'departed'' a wee bit and A/C made a really nice right turn across the
bow(I was on cat 3 r 4)...glad nobody was getting launched at the time. Lowered
nose, lots of left rudder and flew it away, while 'Boss and CO was harping on
the UHF about crossing the stinkin' bow...

My big chance to blow off the centerline and all the missiles(2Aim-7/2 Aim-9,
centerline)...but didn't..that came later in VF-151, with F-4S....
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Pechs1 wrote:
Wait a minute, we were in VF-33 at the same time, Allen was CO when I was
there, followed by Steve Phimister. John Voght took over as XO from Rabbit
Campbell in VF-151(?)..

I wish my cruise book had not been stolen, I'd look you up. Frog Allen
was followed by Fred Bear Voght,
then John Burner Best. This is from 5/79 to 12/83.

My big chance to blow off the centerline and all the missiles (2Aim-7/2
Aim-9,
centerline)...but didn't..that came later in VF-151, with F-4S....

One of the many thrills one could derive from working the roof was watching
the Ordnance and centerline jettison after a bridle slap perf'd the centerline
on the F-4. It got everyone's attention, from the spectator's point of view.
No doubt a similar attitude was taken by the Aircrew (albeit a bit more intense).

Stephen

stephen- I'd look you up. Frog Allen
was followed by Fred Bear Voght,
then John Burner Best. This is from 5/79 to 12/83. BRBR

Yer right...I'm confusing Frog Allen withj somebody else..

stephen One of the many thrills one could derive from working the roof was
watching
the Ordnance and centerline jettison after a bridle slap perf'd the centerline
on the F-4. It got everyone's attention, from the spectator's point of view.
No doubt a similar attitude was taken by the Aircrew (albeit a bit more
intense). BRBR

I had more than a few but most of the time you didn't feel it, a call from a
'good' Airboss when he calmly said, " bridle slap, come outta A/B"...

P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Could someone explain to a blackshoe what a "bridle slap" is/was. Assume this
had nothing to do with martrimony :-)

james- Could someone explain to a blackshoe what a "bridle slap" is/was.
Assume this
had nothing to do with martrimony :-)
BRBR


Pardon my spelling up front. F-4 was launched with a bridle, big cable strung
from catapult to two hooks under A/C. Unless ya wanted to throw it away each
launch, it was held by a rope made setup called the vanselm. It consisted of
some rope that were attached to brass sliders that went the length of the cat
track(brass for no sparks). Sometimes these sliders would pop out, smacking the
F-4 centerline tank, puncturing it, with thr A/B igniting the fuel that was
a'sreaming out. No big deal, just come outta A/B, fire stopped. Either let the
fuel drain out or jettison CL before recovery, look for a tanker or yo-yo(make
the recovery immediately following your launch).
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

CDR Chisholm explained to the "Blackshoe":
F-4 was launched with a bridle, big cable strung
from catapult to two hooks under A/C.
Here's a couple good photos (in this case an A-4 Whale- but the same idea):

http://members.cox.net/eholmes333/soun-pg5.html


Larry
AECS (AW/SW/MTS)
Disabled Combat Veteran
USN Retired

20 years of Navy in my rear view mirror
and getting further away every day ;-)

"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
james- Could someone explain to a blackshoe what a "bridle slap" is/was.
Assume this
had nothing to do with martrimony :-)
BRBR


Pardon my spelling up front. F-4 was launched with a bridle, big cable
strung
from catapult to two hooks under A/C. Unless ya wanted to throw it away
each
launch, it was held by a rope made setup called the vanselm. It consisted
of
some rope that were attached to brass sliders that went the length of the
cat
track(brass for no sparks). Sometimes these sliders would pop out,
smacking the
F-4 centerline tank, puncturing it, with thr A/B igniting the fuel that
was
a'sreaming out. No big deal, just come outta A/B, fire stopped. Either let
the
fuel drain out or jettison CL before recovery, look for a tanker or
yo-yo(make
the recovery immediately following your launch).
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer