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Kevin Brooks radiated into the WorldWideWait: "Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message ... snip Hawks are great flyers but not too bright (where have we heard that description before?). We had a Swainson's hawk fly in front of our troop position just as we opened in Fire for Effect. The unit medical WO, our local hunter and wildlife nut, had it stuffed and mounted, and it was on the wall of the Medical Inspection Room until he retired. Probably lucky he does not reside south of our mutual border. A lot of the birds of prey are protected here. And, as is apt to happen when lawyers and bureaucrats get together, the intent of the protective laws has been twisted beyond reason. Find an owl from the list that has been killed by a car and want to preserve it? You may find yourself facing federal charges. Maybe you are a fly fisherman who likes to tie his own flies and you collect a few feathers from the carcass of a hawk or owl? Ditto. You actually need a *permit* to hold feathers lost by the bird you may have picked up in the woods (there was a court case involving just that here in Virginia--in the end the defendent was able to show he was "descended from the Iroquois" (and thus his possession was covered by a claim of religious freedom) and won at the federal appelate level. Ridiculous that he had to go to that level, much less that he had to resort to his ethnic ancestry... Don't forget the imbecility that only "certified" Indigenous American Aborigines may legally have eagle feathers in their possession. |
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![]() "Duke of URL" macbenahATkdsiDOTnet wrote in message ... In t, Kevin Brooks radiated into the WorldWideWait: "Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message ... snip Hawks are great flyers but not too bright (where have we heard that description before?). We had a Swainson's hawk fly in front of our troop position just as we opened in Fire for Effect. The unit medical WO, our local hunter and wildlife nut, had it stuffed and mounted, and it was on the wall of the Medical Inspection Room until he retired. Probably lucky he does not reside south of our mutual border. A lot of the birds of prey are protected here. And, as is apt to happen when lawyers and bureaucrats get together, the intent of the protective laws has been twisted beyond reason. Find an owl from the list that has been killed by a car and want to preserve it? You may find yourself facing federal charges. Maybe you are a fly fisherman who likes to tie his own flies and you collect a few feathers from the carcass of a hawk or owl? Ditto. You actually need a *permit* to hold feathers lost by the bird you may have picked up in the woods (there was a court case involving just that here in Virginia--in the end the defendent was able to show he was "descended from the Iroquois" (and thus his possession was covered by a claim of religious freedom) and won at the federal appelate level. Ridiculous that he had to go to that level, much less that he had to resort to his ethnic ancestry... Don't forget the imbecility that only "certified" Indigenous American Aborigines may legally have eagle feathers in their possession. Nor the USF&WS prohibition against said "indigenous" peoples even giving gifts that include such feathers to non-Indians (to use the polically incorrect term), which IMHO is just further stupidity heeped upon that imbecility you note. ISTR Readers Digest did a story quite a few years back that pointed out the idiocy behind many of these "illegal feather" cases--one that stuck in my mind was some woman who had made one of those "dream catcher" thingies and sent or gave it to then First Lady Hillary Clinton (and no, this is not an anti-Clinton diatribe, as I have no idea she had any direct involvment whatsover with this case), and subsequently found herself being confronted by a Fish and Wildlife Service investigator and charged with illegal possession and istribution of prhibited feathers. IIRC another poor fellow found a dead owl and stuck it in his freezer (can't recall for what purpose...), and after being reported to same said service also faced charges. I would not have recalled these incidents were it not for the fact that my late brother was then into the fly-tying bit, and was in the habit of stopping and collecting hair and feathers from dead critters he saw on the side of the road, and I remember relaying the article's info to him. Brooks |
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Kevin Brooks radiated into the WorldWideWait: Nor the USF&WS prohibition against said "indigenous" peoples even giving gifts that include such feathers to non-Indians (to use the polically incorrect term), which IMHO is just further stupidity heeped upon that imbecility you note. It's a Murphy's Law, but I can't recall which: No Subject, Topic or Idea is Too Trivial, Stupid or Inconsequential to Have a Law Passed Concerning It. |
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In article , macbenahATkdsiDOTnet says...
In t, Kevin Brooks radiated into the WorldWideWait: Nor the USF&WS prohibition against said "indigenous" peoples even giving gifts that include such feathers to non-Indians (to use the polically incorrect term), which IMHO is just further stupidity heeped upon that imbecility you note. It's a Murphy's Law, but I can't recall which: No Subject, Topic or Idea is Too Trivial, Stupid or Inconsequential to Have a Law Passed Concerning It. Well, right, but, but....... Every guy who shot an owl, eagle, whatever would be there saying "But Ossifer, 'twas but road kill.... found these feathers floating in the garden, &c &c..... never laid a hand on the poor creature Cheers, dba |
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Brian Allardice radiated into the WorldWideWait: In article , macbenahATkdsiDOTnet says... In t, Kevin Brooks radiated into the WorldWideWait: Nor the USF&WS prohibition against said "indigenous" peoples even giving gifts that include such feathers to non-Indians (to use the polically incorrect term), which IMHO is just further stupidity heeped upon that imbecility you note. It's a Murphy's Law, but I can't recall which: No Subject, Topic or Idea is Too Trivial, Stupid or Inconsequential to Have a Law Passed Concerning It. Well, right, but, but....... Every guy who shot an owl, eagle, whatever would be there saying "But Ossifer, 'twas but road kill.... found these feathers floating in the garden, &c &c..... never laid a hand on the poor creature Ah, then you favor convicting people on the basis that they "might possibly" have shot a bird? Personally, I want the F&G Naz^H^H^H Wardens to have to PROVE the individual deliberately caused the bird's demise. There happens to be a medium-sized flock of iggles nesting within a couple miles of my house. Not that I would EVER gather any cast-off feathers, no. Nope. Huh-uh. Not me. |
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