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There was an F11F (but not an F-11F) Tiger until September 18,1962 when a
standard military designation system was adopted and the F11F-1 became the F-11A. Interestingly, the F11F or F-11A started as a derivative of the F9F and was given the designation F9F-8 which was changed to F9F-9 when F9F-8 was assigned to the later Cougars. In April, 1955 after the flight of two prototypes and three production aircraft, the designation for the Tiger was changed to F11F-1. In 1962 the DOD merged the Navy designation system into the existing Air Force designation system which resulted in elimination of the manufacturer designator and incorporation of a series letter (among other changes). The Blue Angels converted to F11F-1's in mid 1957 and were in Tigers until 1968. Jack (Basic reference: United States Navy Aircraft Since 1911 Gordon Swanborough and Peter M Bowers) "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news ![]() The Bearcat was the second type flown by the Blue Algels -- the first type was the Hellcat. In fact, the Angels flew Grummans until the F-4 replaced the F-11F Tigers about 1969. There was no Grumman F-11F. The Blue Angles flew the F-11A Tiger. |
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![]() "Jack G" wrote in message ... There was an F11F (but not an F-11F) Tiger until September 18,1962 when a standard military designation system was adopted and the F11F-1 became the F-11A. Yup, and the F11F-1F became the F-11B. |
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And the 'easy' way of identification was lost forever!
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net... "Jack G" wrote in message ... There was an F11F (but not an F-11F) Tiger until September 18,1962 when a standard military designation system was adopted and the F11F-1 became the F-11A. Yup, and the F11F-1F became the F-11B. |
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![]() "Nice Again" wrote in message ... And the 'easy' way of identification was lost forever! Eh? |
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8 eighth model F Grumman "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Nice Again" wrote in message ... And the 'easy' way of identification was lost forever! Eh? |
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Nice Again wrote:
F fighter 8 eighth model F Grumman This has always seemed harder to me than the Air Force/unified system F Fighter 16 16th type since 1962 Under the Navy designation system, the Hornet would have changed designations from F5D to F3B (I think) when Boeing bought out McDonnell Douglas. You'd have had nearly identical aircraft with two different designations, probably in the same squadrons. Seems rather nonsensical. (The same system had wartime Corsairs as either F4Us or FGs depending on who built them.) "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Nice Again" wrote in message ... And the 'easy' way of identification was lost forever! Eh? -- Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail "If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed) |
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![]() "Thomas Schoene" wrote in message ink.net... (The same system had wartime Corsairs as either F4Us or FGs depending on who built them.) Don't forget the Brewster F3A! |
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![]() "Thomas Schoene" wrote in message ink.net... (The same system had wartime Corsairs as either F4Us or FGs depending on who built them.) I am not telling my age, but I have worked on a FM-2 from Tall-Mantz Aviation, back when one of the world's larger air forces was owned by them and parked on the west end of what is now known as John Wayne International. Leanne |
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That's one of the points, you can tell the mfg. Doh!
"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message ink.net... Nice Again wrote: F fighter 8 eighth model F Grumman This has always seemed harder to me than the Air Force/unified system F Fighter 16 16th type since 1962 Under the Navy designation system, the Hornet would have changed designations from F5D to F3B (I think) when Boeing bought out McDonnell Douglas. You'd have had nearly identical aircraft with two different designations, probably in the same squadrons. Seems rather nonsensical. (The same system had wartime Corsairs as either F4Us or FGs depending on who built them.) "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Nice Again" wrote in message ... And the 'easy' way of identification was lost forever! Eh? -- Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail "If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed) |
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![]() "Nice Again" wrote in message ... F fighter 8 eighth model F Grumman I did not ask for an explanation of the Navy's bizarre designation system, it was your message that was a mystery. |
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