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In the F-4 and Turkey, I have had Mode 1s to touchdown( I know a
contradiction,Mode 1s are always to touchdown) but they were an emergency procedure. I doubtany modern aviator relies on this system I could never get auto throttles to work right in the A-6 in the Prowler they were a little better. I tried to do a coupled approach on Sara (90-91) and ended up with a bolter. The Hornets were doing them all the time they seemed to have the system and ship tweeked up really well. I think it was mandentory for the first Hornet down the chute to attempt a Mode 1 as I recall they flew a lot of them maybe 25% were hooked up. Sparky |
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I know A6 power control was problematic from development through fleet
introduction in 1969. The feedback loop with the ASN-54 APC was inconsistent, and the kinesthetics were unacceptable to the pilot when the system introduced purposeful glide slope deviations for self-check monitoring purposes. The RANGER/CVW-2 deployment in 1969 was the first in which all aircraft aboard, including the C1A COD and the SH-3's were ACLS-equipped. Mode 1 was not authorized at that time for any aircraft. The idea was to "get 'em home safely on a dark and stormy night". Do Hornets have yaw strings glued to the radome like F-4's did? Rick "Elmshoot" wrote in message ... In the F-4 and Turkey, I have had Mode 1s to touchdown( I know a contradiction,Mode 1s are always to touchdown) but they were an emergency procedure. I doubtany modern aviator relies on this system I could never get auto throttles to work right in the A-6 in the Prowler they were a little better. I tried to do a coupled approach on Sara (90-91) and ended up with a bolter. The Hornets were doing them all the time they seemed to have the system and ship tweeked up really well. I think it was mandentory for the first Hornet down the chute to attempt a Mode 1 as I recall they flew a lot of them maybe 25% were hooked up. Sparky -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Rick,
I know A6 power control was problematic from development through fleet introduction in 1969. This was still the case when the Lizards (VA-95) went to sea in 1973 aboard CORAL MARU. We never flew any "coupled" passes closer in than 1/4 mile. -- Mike Kanze "Asking what a pilot thinks about the FAA is like asking a fireplug what it thinks about dogs." - from Bill "Windmill" Young "Yofuri" wrote in message ... I know A6 power control was problematic from development through fleet introduction in 1969. The feedback loop with the ASN-54 APC was inconsistent, and the kinesthetics were unacceptable to the pilot when the system introduced purposeful glide slope deviations for self-check monitoring purposes. The RANGER/CVW-2 deployment in 1969 was the first in which all aircraft aboard, including the C1A COD and the SH-3's were ACLS-equipped. Mode 1 was not authorized at that time for any aircraft. The idea was to "get 'em home safely on a dark and stormy night". Do Hornets have yaw strings glued to the radome like F-4's did? Rick "Elmshoot" wrote in message ... In the F-4 and Turkey, I have had Mode 1s to touchdown( I know a contradiction,Mode 1s are always to touchdown) but they were an emergency procedure. I doubtany modern aviator relies on this system I could never get auto throttles to work right in the A-6 in the Prowler they were a little better. I tried to do a coupled approach on Sara (90-91) and ended up with a bolter. The Hornets were doing them all the time they seemed to have the system and ship tweeked up really well. I think it was mandentory for the first Hornet down the chute to attempt a Mode 1 as I recall they flew a lot of them maybe 25% were hooked up. Sparky -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Elmshoot" wrote...
I could never get auto throttles to work right in the A-6 in the Prowler they were a little better. I tried to do a coupled approach on Sara (90-91) and ended up with a bolter. The Hornets were doing them all the time they seemed to have the system and ship tweeked up really well. I think it was mandentory for the first Hornet down the chute to attempt a Mode 1 as I recall they flew a lot of them maybe 25% were hooked up. I had a total of 4 successful Mode 1 approaches in my career -- 2 each to Kitty Hawk and Nimitz. "It's always something; if it's not one thing, it's another..." (Roseanne Rosannadanna) Autothrottle excursions, Beacon failure, and autopilot excursions were the 3 predominant failure modes... |
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Four more than I. While the Turkey had an excellent APCS, I was never
exposed to the "certified" ACLS model. As for the Phantom, got just past tipover once ... then all hell broke loose. The F-8 was worthy of a chuckle. The J's were retrofitted with bullseye needles. To display CL and GS one had to flip a switch from "TACAN" to "ACLS" ... it reconfigured the ID-249 for the approach. A really good thing, but hardly ACLS. R / John |
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Spn-43(needles) and autothrottles, the way to go in VF-31, last cruise...a
'peek' is worth a thousand 'scans' tho... Forrestal started asking people to try Mode 1s..Sometimes worked, sometimes an automatic trip into the penalty box... P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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Been my experience that Mode 1's work great in the FA-18. In fact, have
probably done well over 20 of them on Lincoln, TR and Nimitz. Worked super every time! Biggest mistake guys make is trying to "influence" corrections by helping it out. As I like to say, "don't a touch a nothin'!" |
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