Navy or Air Farce?

vpn- 1. Aren't all jet engines slow in responding when the throttle is
pushed forward? (Isn't that why full power is applied when hitting
the deck?)

Depends-Smaller diameter turbojet engines had very quick spool up. Not like a
prop but fast. Bigger diameter engines and turbofans, VERY large diameter were
definately slower, but you learned how to 'fly' the engine you had.

2. Is the engine idling when a jet approaches the ramp? I thought
it was a powered approach. Would a prudent pilot cut the power to
idle, if a little high, if the engines respond slowly? Seems to me if
he were that high, it would be smart to start a go-round.

It is a power on approach, on speed angle of attack, constant attitude until
touchdown followed by full power at touchdown whether ya got a wire or not.

I think the early jet, straight deck boys did a 'cut' pass-no? With some of the
centrifical type engines, like in the F-9, I'm sure it was 'interesting'.

vince norris





BRBR

P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

It is a power on approach, on speed angle of attack, constant attitude until
touchdown followed by full power at touchdown whether ya got a wire or not.

That's what I thought. Thanks.

I think the early jet, straight deck boys did a 'cut' pass-no?

Don't know, but with a/c up ahead on the straight deck, I would guess
so.

With some of the centrifical type engines, like in the F-9, I'm sure it was 'interesting'.

As you probably know, when Charleton Heston has a ramp strike in his
SBD, in the movie "Midway," it was really an F9F. I''ve heard the
pilot survived that, but I'm sure it was "interesting."

vince norris

vincent p. norris wrote:
It is a power on approach, on speed angle of attack, constant attitude until
touchdown followed by full power at touchdown whether ya got a wire or not.


That's what I thought. Thanks.


I think the early jet, straight deck boys did a 'cut' pass-no?


Don't know, but with a/c up ahead on the straight deck, I would guess
so.


With some of the centrifical type engines, like in the F-9, I'm sure it was 'interesting'.


As you probably know, when Charleton Heston has a ramp strike in his
SBD, in the movie "Midway," it was really an F9F. I''ve heard the
pilot survived that, but I'm sure it was "interesting."

vince norris

Wasn't that same footage used for the F-14 ramp strike in the movie The
Hunt for Red October as well?

ALV

As you probably know, when Charleton Heston has a ramp strike in his
SBD, in the movie "Midway," it was really an F9F. I''ve heard the
pilot survived that, but I'm sure it was "interesting."

vince norris

Wasn't that same footage used for the F-14 ramp strike in the movie The
Hunt for Red October as well?

Same footage - but I thought the ass-buster was an FH, not a Panther? Not too
familiar with the first generation of carrier jets, but I always had a real
attraction to the Panthers (of 'Toko Ri') and I remember thinking that it was
something other than an F9F cracking up on the round down.

v/r
Gordon


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VPN- As you probably know, when Charleton Heston has a ramp strike in his
SBD, in the movie "Midway," it was really an F9F. I''ve heard the
pilot survived that, but I'm sure it was "interesting." BRBR

I met his daughter, the guy that hit the ramp, not Mr Heston.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

(Pechs1) wrote in message ...
VPN- As you probably know, when Charleton Heston has a ramp strike in his
SBD, in the movie "Midway," it was really an F9F. I''ve heard the
pilot survived that, but I'm sure it was "interesting." BRBR

I met his daughter, the guy that hit the ramp, not Mr Heston.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Wasn't his name Repp?

sid- Wasn't his name Repp? BRBR


geeez, i don't remember, it was in KeyWest and I was at happy hour...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

I believe the pilot was George Duncan, USNA '39. George went on to command
RANGER during the early 1960s.

--
Mike Kanze

"The Project Uncertainty Principle says that if you understand a project,
you won't know its cost, and vice versa."

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"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
VPN- As you probably know, when Charleton Heston has a ramp strike in
his
SBD, in the movie "Midway," it was really an F9F. I''ve heard the
pilot survived that, but I'm sure it was "interesting." BRBR

I met his daughter, the guy that hit the ramp, not Mr Heston.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer

I believe the pilot was George Duncan, USNA '39. George went on to command
RANGER during the early 1960s.


What type of a/c did he bust his ass in?
Thanks in advance.

v/r
Gordon

"Mike Kanze" wrote in message ...
I believe the pilot was George Duncan, USNA '39. George went on to command
RANGER during the early 1960s.

--
Mike Kanze
Yep,you're right. CDR Duncan was the one in this incident on the
Midway which is the one thats in the footage all the movies use:
http://www.midwaysailor.com/midwayme...51oct-001b.jpg
I remember a Repp survived a ramp strike as well, but i can't find any
references