Navy or Air Farce?

Males totally rejected the idea, and last I heard, female Hornet pilots
weresomehow using piddle packs... although, I've never figured out
thehydromechanics of that evolution.Some things, I'm happy just not
knowing.--Woody

Piddle packs. My kid found two in a bottom drawer somewhere and held it out to
me, saying, "I don't want to know."

Had a pilot **** in the canteen once - tried to hand it back to me to dispose
of ("Are you nuts, sir?? Fling it out your own door!") but I don't recall using
one of those scanky-ass relief tubes (Is it plugged, or not? Care to find
out?) or even piddle packs for that matter. Most of our missions were less
than six hours and I had an 8-hour certification on my bladder so it was never
much of an issue. On @#$%# P-3 flights, it was.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

Its always better to lose AN engine, than THE engine.

On 3/13/04 11:21 PM, in article
, "Krztalizer"
wrote:

Piddle packs. My kid found two in a bottom drawer somewhere and held it out
to
me, saying, "I don't want to know."

Had a pilot **** in the canteen once - tried to hand it back to me to dispose
of ("Are you nuts, sir?? Fling it out your own door!") but I don't recall
using
one of those scanky-ass relief tubes (Is it plugged, or not? Care to find
out?) or even piddle packs for that matter. Most of our missions were less
than six hours and I had an 8-hour certification on my bladder so it was never
much of an issue. On @#$%# P-3 flights, it was.

v/r
Gordon

Personally, I felt it very important to be hydrated... especially over bad
guy country. It'd be a bad deal to get bagged and start out on the ground
short of water. On a 6.5 to 8 hour mission, I had to learn how to use the
piddle pack. Admittedly, it took some time to master. Always managed to
throw 2 to 3 overboard after the trap.

On the other hand, I fly with guys that can't make it through a 1.3 hour hop
without peeing at some point. Still can't figure that out.

--Woody

Personally, I felt it very important to be hydrated... especially over bad
guy country. It'd be a bad deal to get bagged and start out on the ground
short of water. On a 6.5 to 8 hour mission, I had to learn how to use the
piddle pack. Admittedly, it took some time to master. Always managed to
throw 2 to 3 overboard after the trap.

On the other hand, I fly with guys that can't make it through a 1.3 hour hop
without peeing at some point. Still can't figure that out.

--Woody

Woody,
Good point about being well hydrated. Many times I should have drank more water
during the flight. In the Airlines I make a point to drink lots of water.
Back in the dark ages I when I was an NFO I flew with a guy named Larry Gardner
who couldn't make it to the 7 mile arc on a case 1 launch before he was going
for the relief tube. LOL
Sparky

Woody,

Proper hydration was highly emphasized during the VN war - and the point was
easily and quickly driven home on the searing flight decks off Yankee and
Dixie stations. Manned up and waiting your turn for the huffer, even with
the open cockpit, made one a believer.

During our first post-line period port call in Subic (April, when things
weren't REALLY hot yet) I went straight to the Navy Exchange and bought
several plastic baby bottles and caps (but not the nipples). Before each
launch I filled them with the offerings of the Ready Room scuttlebutt and
stuffed same in my g-suit pockets (held 6 - 3 each leg). I usually consumed
at least two between man-up and launch, plus another one or two during the
mission. This left me 2 - 3 available if I were forced à pied into scenic
North Vietnam.

Never found myself fumbling for the funnel either.

--
Mike Kanze

"When you're majoring in abnormal psychology, ALL television is
educational!"

- Frank & Ernest, 3/9/04


"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 3/13/04 11:21 PM, in article
, "Krztalizer"
wrote:

Piddle packs. My kid found two in a bottom drawer somewhere and held it
out
to
me, saying, "I don't want to know."

Had a pilot **** in the canteen once - tried to hand it back to me to
dispose
of ("Are you nuts, sir?? Fling it out your own door!") but I don't
recall
using
one of those scanky-ass relief tubes (Is it plugged, or not? Care to
find
out?) or even piddle packs for that matter. Most of our missions were
less
than six hours and I had an 8-hour certification on my bladder so it was
never
much of an issue. On @#$%# P-3 flights, it was.

v/r
Gordon

Personally, I felt it very important to be hydrated... especially over bad
guy country. It'd be a bad deal to get bagged and start out on the ground
short of water. On a 6.5 to 8 hour mission, I had to learn how to use the
piddle pack. Admittedly, it took some time to master. Always managed to
throw 2 to 3 overboard after the trap.

On the other hand, I fly with guys that can't make it through a 1.3 hour
hop
without peeing at some point. Still can't figure that out.

--Woody

nt (Krztalizer) wrote in message ...
Males totally rejected the idea, and last I heard, female Hornet pilots
weresomehow using piddle packs... although, I've never figured out
thehydromechanics of that evolution.Some things, I'm happy just not
knowing.--Woody


Had a pilot **** in the canteen once - tried to hand it back to me to dispose
of ("Are you nuts, sir?? Fling it out your own door!") but I don't recall using
one of those scanky-ass relief tubes (Is it plugged, or not? Care to find
out?)

-- In the E-2 'twas easy to do at altitude, just hold the switch down
and listen (pray) for the sound of rushing wind Had a guy in one
of the squadrons who had the urge *before* launch -- almost ended up
w/a down a/c 'cause the final checker initially couldn't figure out
what the fluid was and where it was coming from. 'course from that
day on the intrepid NFO was known as "Peeps". The classic though was
the copilot who poured the rest of his orange soda down the relief
tube and ended up painting the right side of the a/c under his window
orange. Us backenders have also been known to hold the door to CIC
shut to keep the front-enders out on their way back to take a dump in
the plastic bag in back. We sure didn't want to have to put up with
it for the next 5+ hours...

Oh, and for the distaff members, the COD ended up with a curtain for
privacy, I do believe

Will Dossel
Last of the Steeljaws (VAW-122)