VF Question

"WaltBJ" wrote in message
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What's the number of the VF squadron with the rising sun as a logo?
Are they the Sundowners?


That wouldn't make any sense at all.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote...

What's the number of the VF squadron with the rising sun as a logo?
Are they the Sundowners?

That wouldn't make any sense at all.

Your point? They ARE fighter pilots...

"John R Weiss" wrote in message
news:OX0fc.136187$JO3.84364@attbi_s04...

Your point? They ARE fighter pilots...


So because they ARE fighter pilots they chose a rising sun to represent the
Sundowners? Are you saying fighter pilots are stupid?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote...

Your point? They ARE fighter pilots...

So because they ARE fighter pilots they chose a rising sun to represent the
Sundowners? Are you saying fighter pilots are stupid?

Nope.

Just because they may not make sense at times, doesn't make them stupid.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:55:42 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"John R Weiss" wrote in message
news:OX0fc.136187$JO3.84364@attbi_s04...

Your point? They ARE fighter pilots...


So because they ARE fighter pilots they chose a rising sun to represent the
Sundowners? Are you saying fighter pilots are stupid?

Maybe "rising sun" was a poor descriptor for "sun on the horizon"? How
can one tell by looking at a logo if they are looking a a depiction of
East horizon or West?

Fighter pilots are not stupid, but, they occasionally may be
disoriented. At least AF pilots can always orient themselves by the
base runway--for the poor nasal radiators the runway keeps moving and
turning.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

"Ed Rasimus" wrote...

Fighter pilots are not stupid, but, they occasionally may be
disoriented. At least AF pilots can always orient themselves by the
base runway--for the poor nasal radiators the runway keeps moving and
turning.

It's a test -- can we stay oriented while the runway's moving in circles?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:57:08 GMT, "John R Weiss"
wrote:

"Ed Rasimus" wrote...

Fighter pilots are not stupid, but, they occasionally may be
disoriented. At least AF pilots can always orient themselves by the
base runway--for the poor nasal radiators the runway keeps moving and
turning.

It's a test -- can we stay oriented while the runway's moving in circles?

Why does that conjure up an image of a base turn that never reaches
final?


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

"Ed Rasimus" wrote...

It's a test -- can we stay oriented while the runway's moving in circles?

Why does that conjure up an image of a base turn that never reaches
final?

Been there; done that! When operating "zip lip" in the vicinity of rainstorms,
the ship would often make unannounced turns.

Occasionally they'd do it during night EMCON ops, too, but that would result in
a ILS localizer that just wouldn't stay in the middle...

Ed- Why does that conjure up an image of a base turn that never reaches
final? BRBR

Ya haven't lived until ya try to get aboard when the ship's inna turn..great
fun and if ya don't kill yerself, an auto 'OK' pass from paddles.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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Maybe "rising sun" was a poor descriptor for "sun on the horizon"?


I think a logo with a "sun on the horizon" for any group calling themselves
the Sun Downers would be best described as a setting sun.



How can one tell by looking at a logo if they are looking a a
depiction of East horizon or West?


If the logo is for the Sun Downers it's a west horizon.