USS Liberty Challenge/Reward

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How?
The command to destory the naval records would have to pass several
hands between the president and the corporal that would press the
"erase" botton. Every hand along the way would be a risk factor that
could take an interest in the records just because the president wanted
them erased.

(Issac Goldberg) wrote in message . com...
Well, here is one way to do it:

July 9, 2004
Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL, The New York Times

It said the payroll records of "numerous service members," including
former First Lt. Bush, had been ruined in 1996 and 1997 by the Defense
Finance and Accounting Service during a project to salvage
deteriorating microfilm. No back-up paper copies could be found, it
added in notices dated June 25.

You can run such a story on 25 years old records, and 25 days old records.

You asked, "How?" And I provided you with one real life example.
LBJ could have used a similar method to have evidence destroyed in
the case of the USS Liberty attack.

Besides, in 1997 Bush was not the president,
so the interest in him was much lower.

Funny, when Bush released some of his records a number of months
ago, nothing was said of the destroyed records. Perhaps they
were not destroyed in 1997, but more recently? When you are
president, everybody is eager to follow your direct orders,
apparently, even if the orders may be illegal. It would take
a real suicidal personality to disobey a direct order from
the President of the United States. They say, "you can't
fight City Hall." In this case, it would be "you can't fight
the White House."

It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??
"Issac Goldberg" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message
. com...
How?
The command to destory the naval records would have to pass several
hands between the president and the corporal that would press the
"erase" botton. Every hand along the way would be a risk factor
that
could take an interest in the records just because the president
wanted
them erased.

(Issac Goldberg) wrote in message
. com...
Well, here is one way to do it:

July 9, 2004
Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL, The New York Times

It said the payroll records of "numerous service members," including
former First Lt. Bush, had been ruined in 1996 and 1997 by the Defense
Finance and Accounting Service during a project to salvage
deteriorating microfilm. No back-up paper copies could be found, it
added in notices dated June 25.

You can run such a story on 25 years old records, and 25 days old
records.

You asked, "How?" And I provided you with one real life example.
LBJ could have used a similar method to have evidence destroyed in
the case of the USS Liberty attack.

Besides, in 1997 Bush was not the president,
so the interest in him was much lower.

Funny, when Bush released some of his records a number of months
ago, nothing was said of the destroyed records. Perhaps they
were not destroyed in 1997, but more recently? When you are
president, everybody is eager to follow your direct orders,
apparently, even if the orders may be illegal. It would take
a real suicidal personality to disobey a direct order from
the President of the United States. They say, "you can't
fight City Hall." In this case, it would be "you can't fight
the White House."

"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message . ..
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??

Why will Israel not release crucial information about the attack?

Who in the IAF knew the USS Liberty had been identified as an American
spy ship the morning of 8 June?

The repeated overflights of the Liberty, who was flying those planes,
what did they report to the IAF controllers?

The airborne radar some say was used at attack time to guide the
initial attack jets to their target, was it also used to track the
Liberty during the morning hours of 8 June?

Were IAF CDR Hod and IDF COS Rabin told of the american spy ship the
morning of 8 June?

Why has Israel refused to release the detailed testimony of its
aftermath investigations?

In the Nowicki document there are clearly two distinct mentions of the
American flag by the Israelis in the intercepted conversations. Yet
in the released NSA intercept tapes, there is only one time when the
flag is mentioned. What would the Israeli attackers have been talking
about in that earlier conversation reported by Nowicki when they
mention the American flag? ( that first mention, an est 50 minutes
before the 2nd, is what caught the airborne NSA crew's attention to
the attack )

-Steve

why dont you bitch and moan about the USS Cole???
"Steve Richter" wrote in message
m...
"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message
. ..
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??

Why will Israel not release crucial information about the attack?

Who in the IAF knew the USS Liberty had been identified as an American
spy ship the morning of 8 June?

The repeated overflights of the Liberty, who was flying those planes,
what did they report to the IAF controllers?

The airborne radar some say was used at attack time to guide the
initial attack jets to their target, was it also used to track the
Liberty during the morning hours of 8 June?

Were IAF CDR Hod and IDF COS Rabin told of the american spy ship the
morning of 8 June?

Why has Israel refused to release the detailed testimony of its
aftermath investigations?

In the Nowicki document there are clearly two distinct mentions of the
American flag by the Israelis in the intercepted conversations. Yet
in the released NSA intercept tapes, there is only one time when the
flag is mentioned. What would the Israeli attackers have been talking
about in that earlier conversation reported by Nowicki when they
mention the American flag? ( that first mention, an est 50 minutes
before the 2nd, is what caught the airborne NSA crew's attention to
the attack )

-Steve

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:21:21 GMT, "Jeffrey Krantz"
wrote:

why dont you bitch and moan about the USS Cole???

Its sub judice

--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message ...
why dont you bitch and moan about the USS Cole???

The Cole was attacked by enemies of the US. Is that the how the
attack on the Liberty should be considered? Does Israel treat all
foreigners like they are palestinians? Why will it not release basic
information about the attack it says was accidental?

"Steve Richter" wrote in message
m...
"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message
. ..
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??

Why will Israel not release crucial information about the attack?

Who in the IAF knew the USS Liberty had been identified as an American
spy ship the morning of 8 June?

The repeated overflights of the Liberty, who was flying those planes,
what did they report to the IAF controllers?

The airborne radar some say was used at attack time to guide the
initial attack jets to their target, was it also used to track the
Liberty during the morning hours of 8 June?

Were IAF CDR Hod and IDF COS Rabin told of the american spy ship the
morning of 8 June?

Why has Israel refused to release the detailed testimony of its
aftermath investigations?

In the Nowicki document there are clearly two distinct mentions of the
American flag by the Israelis in the intercepted conversations. Yet
in the released NSA intercept tapes, there is only one time when the
flag is mentioned. What would the Israeli attackers have been talking
about in that earlier conversation reported by Nowicki when they
mention the American flag? ( that first mention, an est 50 minutes
before the 2nd, is what caught the airborne NSA crew's attention to
the attack )

-Steve

the COLE happened in a port that was considered safe. hence the refueling
depot.

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Steve Richter" wrote in message
om...
"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message
...
why dont you bitch and moan about the USS Cole???

The Cole was attacked by enemies of the US. Is that the how the
attack on the Liberty should be considered? Does Israel treat all
foreigners like they are palestinians? Why will it not release basic
information about the attack it says was accidental?

"Steve Richter" wrote in message
m...
"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message
. ..
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and
moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??

Why will Israel not release crucial information about the attack?

Who in the IAF knew the USS Liberty had been identified as an American
spy ship the morning of 8 June?

The repeated overflights of the Liberty, who was flying those planes,
what did they report to the IAF controllers?

The airborne radar some say was used at attack time to guide the
initial attack jets to their target, was it also used to track the
Liberty during the morning hours of 8 June?

Were IAF CDR Hod and IDF COS Rabin told of the american spy ship the
morning of 8 June?

Why has Israel refused to release the detailed testimony of its
aftermath investigations?

In the Nowicki document there are clearly two distinct mentions of the
American flag by the Israelis in the intercepted conversations. Yet
in the released NSA intercept tapes, there is only one time when the
flag is mentioned. What would the Israeli attackers have been talking
about in that earlier conversation reported by Nowicki when they
mention the American flag? ( that first mention, an est 50 minutes
before the 2nd, is what caught the airborne NSA crew's attention to
the attack )

-Steve

Cause we Jews didn't do it!!

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Jeffrey Krantz" wrote in message
...
It occured to me: why are the anti Israelies not bitching and moaning so
loudly about the USS Cole??
"Issac Goldberg" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message
. com...
How?
The command to destory the naval records would have to pass
several
hands between the president and the corporal that would press the
"erase" botton. Every hand along the way would be a risk factor
that
could take an interest in the records just because the president
wanted
them erased.

(Issac Goldberg) wrote in message
. com...
Well, here is one way to do it:

July 9, 2004
Pentagon Says Bush Records of Service Were Destroyed
By RALPH BLUMENTHAL, The New York Times

It said the payroll records of "numerous service members," including
former First Lt. Bush, had been ruined in 1996 and 1997 by the
Defense
Finance and Accounting Service during a project to salvage
deteriorating microfilm. No back-up paper copies could be found, it
added in notices dated June 25.

You can run such a story on 25 years old records, and 25 days old
records.

You asked, "How?" And I provided you with one real life example.
LBJ could have used a similar method to have evidence destroyed in
the case of the USS Liberty attack.

Besides, in 1997 Bush was not the president,
so the interest in him was much lower.

Funny, when Bush released some of his records a number of months
ago, nothing was said of the destroyed records. Perhaps they
were not destroyed in 1997, but more recently? When you are
president, everybody is eager to follow your direct orders,
apparently, even if the orders may be illegal. It would take
a real suicidal personality to disobey a direct order from
the President of the United States. They say, "you can't
fight City Hall." In this case, it would be "you can't fight
the White House."

wrote in message ...
Cause we Jews didn't do it!!

I didn't do it!! -Bart Simpson

Referring to the Cole ass hole
but then you still refuse to tell us your real name.

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Issac Goldberg" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message
...
Cause we Jews didn't do it!!

I didn't do it!! -Bart Simpson