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Old August 30th 04, 03:06 PM
Tex Houston
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NOT Bush-

A Governor in TX stated he helped GW get into the ANG. GW chose the one

A/C
least likely to go to SE Asia(F-102).


Political considerations aside, the F-102s were in SEA for a period
of...gasp...ten years.

Tex


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Old August 31st 04, 02:36 PM
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Tex- Political considerations aside, the F-102s were in SEA for a period
of...gasp...ten years. BRBR

When did they go? When did they convert the F-102 to be able to carry a gun pod
and Aim-9?

Or was it the F-106?


P. C. Chisholm
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Old August 31st 04, 03:22 PM
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Tex- Political considerations aside, the F-102s were in SEA for a period
of...gasp...ten years. BRBR

When did they go? When did they convert the F-102 to be able to carry a

gun pod
and Aim-9?

Or was it the F-106?


P. C. Chisholm



Started deploying in small detachments to SEA in April 1961, larger
detachments in 1964, first loss of 14 total was 27 November 1964. Since
they served primarily in the air defense role no weapons changes necessary
except no nuclear warheads. Biggest problem was providing a cobbled
together probe as the F-102 had no provision for air refueling.

The F-106 did not serve in SEA.

A www.google.com search using F-102 Southeast Asia returns 793 hits.

Tex Houston


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Old August 31st 04, 04:51 PM
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Thanks Tex. how many ANG F-102 units?
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Old August 31st 04, 05:22 PM
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Thanks Tex. how many ANG F-102 units?
P. C. Chisholm


No complete squadrons for F-102 but individual ANG pilots served there in a
program called "Palace Chase". The ANG did send squadrons to SEA for
example Colorado, New York, Iowa and New Mexico furnished F-100 squadrons.
I don't want to get into the Guard and Reserve vs active duty argument but I
think you are wrong about their service. They fly modern (as modern as we
have) equipment, often serve in associate wings and even combined units.
Colorado has both an F-16 wing and a C-130 wing in their ANG.

Tex


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Old August 31st 04, 08:31 PM
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"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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I don't want to get into the Guard and Reserve vs active duty argument but

I
think you are wrong about their service. They fly modern (as modern as we
have) equipment, often serve in associate wings and even combined units.
Colorado has both an F-16 wing and a C-130 wing in their ANG.


The ANG of the Georgia Wing has a C-130 unit out of Savannah that is split
with half being in the Iran/Afghanistan theaters rotating on a continual
basis and has been for a couple years now. I think it was last week or the
week before that one group returned when they were replaced by the other
part of the squadron.

Leanne


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Old September 3rd 04, 04:38 PM
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"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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Started deploying in small detachments to SEA in April 1961, larger
detachments in 1964, first loss of 14 total was 27 November 1964. Since
they served primarily in the air defense role no weapons changes necessary
except no nuclear warheads. Biggest problem was providing a cobbled
together probe as the F-102 had no provision for air refueling.


The refueling probe was used only for the deployment and removed on arrival.


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Old August 31st 04, 06:56 PM
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When did they go? When did they convert the F-102 to be able to carry a
gun pod
and Aim-9?

Or was it the F-106?


They carried the Falcon. Lost two F-102 to MiG-21 when they tried to play
with them. The F-106 never went, it was the mainstay of the ADC CONUS at the
time. As Ed Rasimus says often, the only two birds that didn't go where the
F-106 and the B-58. If the NVC started using bombers against the US or the
guys in the south, then more F-102 and/or F-104 would go.
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José Herculano


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Old September 3rd 04, 04:35 PM
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Tex- Political considerations aside, the F-102s were in SEA for a period
of...gasp...ten years. BRBR

When did they go?


In August 1961 four F-102As of the 509th FIS deployed to Bangkok's Don Muang
Airport. The following March F-102s deployed to Tan Son Nhut AB. The F-102
served in Vietnam until 1970.



When did they convert the F-102 to be able to carry a gun pod
and Aim-9?


They didn't.



Or was it the F-106?


Some F-106s were modified to carry the cannon. It did not carry the AIM-9.


 




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