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"Mike Kanze" wrote in message
Never having stood OOD on a Bird Farm I don't know if the Rules of the Road are modified during such things as FLTOPS, UNREP, etc. My very dim recollection is, "no." But it's been many years since Navigation and Piloting. Many years here, too. Speculation: It wouldn't surprise me if certain operations like you cited create a "burdened vessel" situation, one in which other traffic would be obliged to steer clear despite their otherwise having the right-of-way. This also presupposes that the burdened vessel is flying all the proper flags, lights and shapes, and is signaling appropriately for her situation. Could be. I just don't remember. No 'Shoes about, eh? :-) While we are on the subject of "hearsay sea stories" I stood Shore Patrol Officer one night in Greenoch, Scotland. It was a pretty good deal, as I got to have dinner at the RN Officer's Mess and they made the Yank pretty welcome. One of the RN LTs told a story about HMS ARK ROYAL (we had just completed some ops with that ship and USS INDEPENDANCE). He said he was OOD one day during an UNREP. All was going smoothly, when their AGI decided to play "chicken of the sea." He ran a couple of miles ahead of the oiler and carrier, then reversed course, putting himself in the position of privelegded vessel. His intent was run between the oiler and carrier, causing an emergency breakaway (creates quite a mess, I am told, when done with NSFO flowing in the pipes). The Captain had just entered the bridge as the AGI started his run. The LT, who had the deck was about to order an emergency breakaway when he heard the Captain say, "This is the Captain, I have the con." He looked at the CO, who was staring straight ahead. He asked the Captain if he wanted to secure pumping and the Captain said, "No." By now the AGI was committed and ran between the two ships, resulting in a Very Near Miss. Of course, as the AGI proceeded bewteen, he parted four fuel lines, all charged. The AGI turned from a pretty shade of white and gray to a VERY dirty brown. Mast head to water line. Stem to stern. (For those of you not familiar with Navy Standard Fuel Oil, it is a tar-like stuff that must be heated to flow. When cooled it has the consistency of a very sticky asphalt.) The Captain then immediately ordered a helo launched to take pictures. He returned the con to the LT and retired to his sea cabin. For the next week or so the deck apes on that AGI had quite a cleanup problem. There were photos on the wall in the bar. Still - as others have already pointed out - the above is moot if you are a USN Skipper and your hull touches something it shouldn't. Amen. Sidebar: Having crewed on a 34' sloop, I know the USCG is very particular about pleasure sailing craft flying the appropriate shape (daytime) whenever they are maneuvering under BOTH sail and power. (Inland Rules of the Road, I think.) In these instances, the sailing craft is treated as a non-burdened vessel and has no more right-of-way than any other motorized watercraft. Flying the shape is necessary also because many pleasure sailcraft have inboard engines that aren't readily apparent by distant visual inspection. This is just one more reason that I will stick with houseboats on Watts Bar Lake. ;-) Bill Kambic Mangalarga Marchador: Uma raça, uma paixão |
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"LT Steven J Henderson" wrote in message
snipped for brevity Thanks for the very cogent and up to date explanation! ;-) Bill Kambic Mangalarga Marchador: Uma raça, uma paixão |
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Henderson writes snip The ship should have been flying Ball-Diamond-Ball or the appropriate lights to show that the huge gray ship launching and recovering aircraft was "Restricted in its ability to manuver." That means that the carrier, according to the Rules of the Road for international waters, has the right of way except for vessels adrift/not under command or anchored. The dhow, even if actively engaged in fishing or under sail power should have done everything practicable to avoid the collision. Would you expect the skipper/owner of a fishing dhow to know the rules to the detail that you know them? Or even any rules? Mike |
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"M. J. Powell" wrote in message
The ship should have been flying Ball-Diamond-Ball or the appropriate lights to show that the huge gray ship launching and recovering aircraft was "Restricted in its ability to manuver." That means that the carrier, according to the Rules of the Road for international waters, has the right of way except for vessels adrift/not under command or anchored. The dhow, even if actively engaged in fishing or under sail power should have done everything practicable to avoid the collision. Would you expect the skipper/owner of a fishing dhow to know the rules to the detail that you know them? Or even any rules? He/she is charged with knowing them, even if they do not. If the carrier CO followed the rules and still had a loss then he might walk away. If there were any deviations on the part of the carrier crew or CO then the CO is probably toast. Bill Kambic Mangalarga Marchador: Uma raça, uma paixão Mike |
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Very helpful and informative, especially to those of us 30+ years out of the
cockpit or off the bridge. -- Mike Kanze "If history repeats itself, I should think we can expect the same thing again." - NBC softball analyst at the 2004 Summer Olympics (This one earned the Yogi Berra Award.) "LT Steven J Henderson" wrote in message . .. [rest snipped] |
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