Cat peeking out of the bag?

I guess nobody else has heard of these results either. The CO I worked for at
VX-4 was CO Topgun just before that. These two echelon 2 commands would have
certainly heard of these results if they were indeed factual. As XO of VX-4, I
was privy to any and all information that the CO was...

I also completed the Strike Leaders course at Strike U...during my DH tour in
VF-31..F-14s...never heard of any of this during that either...

So as I have 'discussed' with Mr. Cooper. I jes don get it...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Pechs,
do I understand your post correctly: not even people at Topgun have ever got
documents of this kind?

In the introduction it stands it was supplied to following authorities:

- COMOPTEVFOR NORFOLK VA
- HAWTS ONE YUMA AZ
- AIRTEVRON FOUR
- AIRTEVRON FIVE
- CJTFME
- USCINCCENT MACDILL AFB FL
- USCINCCENT INTELCEN MACDILL AFB FL
- CINCPACFLT PEARL HARBOUR HI
- COMSEVENTHFLT
- CTF SEVEN ZERO
- CTG EIGHT ZERO ZERO PT ONE
- USS ENTERPRISE
- COMCARAIRWING ELEVEN
- INFO FTD WRIGHT PATTERSON AFB OH
- DIRNSA FT GEORGE G MEADE MD
- CIA WASHINGTON DC
- NAVSTRKWARCEN FALLON NV
- NAVFITWEPSCOL SAN DIEGO CA

Security clearance: S E C R E T NOFORN WNINTEL

If you think I'm constructing anything I can easily e-mail you a scan of the
document mentioned above so you can check if it's real or not.

--
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Tom Cooper
Freelance aviation journalist

Author:
- Iranian F-14 Tomcat Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S7875

- Arab MiG-19 and MiG-21 Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6550

- Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6585

- African MiGs
http://www.acig.org/afmig/

- Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
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On 11/11/04 9:33 AM, in article , "Tom
Cooper" wrote:

Pechs,
do I understand your post correctly: not even people at Topgun have ever got
documents of this kind?

In the introduction it stands it was supplied to following authorities:

- COMOPTEVFOR NORFOLK VA
- HAWTS ONE YUMA AZ
- AIRTEVRON FOUR
- AIRTEVRON FIVE
- CJTFME
- USCINCCENT MACDILL AFB FL
- USCINCCENT INTELCEN MACDILL AFB FL
- CINCPACFLT PEARL HARBOUR HI
- COMSEVENTHFLT
- CTF SEVEN ZERO
- CTG EIGHT ZERO ZERO PT ONE
- USS ENTERPRISE
- COMCARAIRWING ELEVEN
- INFO FTD WRIGHT PATTERSON AFB OH
- DIRNSA FT GEORGE G MEADE MD
- CIA WASHINGTON DC
- NAVSTRKWARCEN FALLON NV
- NAVFITWEPSCOL SAN DIEGO CA

Security clearance: S E C R E T NOFORN WNINTEL

If you think I'm constructing anything I can easily e-mail you a scan of the
document mentioned above so you can check if it's real or not.

Do you know what these PLAD's mean, Tom?

--Woody

Sincerely, I don't even know what "PLAD" means...?

--
************************************************** ***********************
Tom Cooper
Freelance aviation journalist

Author:
- Iranian F-14 Tomcat Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S7875

- Arab MiG-19 and MiG-21 Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6550

- Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6585

- African MiGs
http://www.acig.org/afmig/

- Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
************************************************** ***********************

Mr Cooper- - COMOPTEVFOR NORFOLK VA BRBR
- AIRTEVRON FOUR BRBR
- NAVFITWEPSCOL SAN DIEGO CA BRBR

Like I said, I worked for COMOPTEVFOR at VX-4, and my CO was former CO of
TopGun..and the headers look genuine altho I can't understand why a civilian
has SECRET/NOFORN/ documents.

BUT never heard a sound of the engagments that you say were all so common...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
Mr Cooper- - COMOPTEVFOR NORFOLK VA BRBR
- AIRTEVRON FOUR BRBR
- NAVFITWEPSCOL SAN DIEGO CA BRBR

Like I said, I worked for COMOPTEVFOR at VX-4, and my CO was former CO of
TopGun..and the headers look genuine altho I can't understand why a
civilian
has SECRET/NOFORN/ documents.

Because I requested their release according to "FOIA" procedure. FOIA stands
for "Freedom of Information Act". This US law grants the right to any person
to request the release of documents from whichever authority in the USA: the
authority in question must answer to any such request (the question is only
how much of the document is going to be released and how much is going to be
blotted out).

For details about FOIA inquiries related to the USN, please see he
http://foia.navy.mil/

The procedure is very simple, and I must say ONI is usually swift to
respond.

--
************************************************** ***********************
Tom Cooper
Freelance aviation journalist

Author:
- Iranian F-14 Tomcat Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S7875

- Arab MiG-19 and MiG-21 Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6550

- Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/titl...hp/title=S6585

- African MiGs
http://www.acig.org/afmig/

- Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
************************************************** ***********************