? for the NG-Flag shoulder patches

Having enough patches on your jacket and suit, to look like a walking
billboard on old route 66, was better than a promotion. Any old salt Naval
Aviator, knew the importance that looking good had on your legend
ooops....... I........errrr....cough, cough....... yeah....... reputation.

Red

"Jake Donovan" wrote in message
news:jYxpd.3712$wa1.3178@lakeread04...
Woody,

I thought it sucked when the mandate came down only one patch per
shoulder.
The pen cover looked so nice with a TG patch.

:-)

Jake

"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 11/25/04 1:19 PM, in article
, "Rich"

wrote:

(Pechs1) wrote in message
...
On the news I see the American flag on the right shoulder of the Army,
but it
seems backwards, blue field on the right instead of the left...

Insight?
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer

Blue field facing forward.

Rich

Or in the case of Navy pilots, just accumulate enough experience so that
you
can cover one shoulder with a 1,000 hrs patch (or x,000 hrs as
appropriate)
and the other with a unit patch or TOPGUN patch if applicable. No flag
required.

--Woody

Red,

Oh how true.... LOL You know you've earned your "stripe" when this is less
green on your Nomenx Jacket than patches. :-)

Jake

"Red Rider" wrote in message
m...
Having enough patches on your jacket and suit, to look like a walking
billboard on old route 66, was better than a promotion. Any old salt Naval
Aviator, knew the importance that looking good had on your legend
ooops....... I........errrr....cough, cough....... yeah.......
reputation.

Red

"Jake Donovan" wrote in message
news:jYxpd.3712$wa1.3178@lakeread04...
Woody,

I thought it sucked when the mandate came down only one patch per
shoulder.
The pen cover looked so nice with a TG patch.

:-)

Jake

"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
On 11/25/04 1:19 PM, in article
, "Rich"

wrote:

(Pechs1) wrote in message
...
On the news I see the American flag on the right shoulder of the
Army,
but it
seems backwards, blue field on the right instead of the left...

Insight?
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer

Blue field facing forward.

Rich

Or in the case of Navy pilots, just accumulate enough experience so
that
you
can cover one shoulder with a 1,000 hrs patch (or x,000 hrs as
appropriate)
and the other with a unit patch or TOPGUN patch if applicable. No flag
required.

--Woody

Jake- Oh how true.... LOL You know you've earned your "stripe" when this is
less
green on your Nomenx Jacket than patches. :-) BRBR

Nomex??!!

How about the old nylon one? What true 'old farts' had/have-
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

LOL I have one of those too! (OF's)

Problem being is ya can't wear one on da boat.

Jake


"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
Jake- Oh how true.... LOL You know you've earned your "stripe" when
this is
less
green on your Nomenx Jacket than patches. :-) BRBR

Nomex??!!

How about the old nylon one? What true 'old farts' had/have-
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer

I've never seen a "Nomex" one... Just the nylon... And last time I was on
the boat, I wore it.

--Woody

On 11/29/04 7:11 PM, in article PMPqd.4121$wa1.3402@lakeread04, "Jake
Donovan" wrote:

LOL I have one of those too! (OF's)

Problem being is ya can't wear one on da boat.

Jake


"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
Jake- Oh how true.... LOL You know you've earned your "stripe" when
this is
less
green on your Nomenx Jacket than patches. :-) BRBR

Nomex??!!

How about the old nylon one? What true 'old farts' had/have-
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer

Woody,

Both the CWU 36P and CWU 45P, issued since the late 70's early 80's are
constructed of ARIMNID fibers. AKA Nomex. A quick look at the label will
tell you. Give me a day or so and I'll dig up the Pub #. Nylon is a no go
and has been. I know for a fact that all flight jackets issued in the last
15 years have been made of Arimid fibers. (Other than Leather)

I think what you will find is some of the old nylon jackets get by as few
people can see the difference. How old is yours?

I was on a boat a few weeks ago, I saw no nylon.

Jake


"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a "Nomex" one... Just the nylon... And last time I was on
the boat, I wore it.

--Woody

On 11/29/04 7:11 PM, in article PMPqd.4121$wa1.3402@lakeread04, "Jake
Donovan" wrote:

LOL I have one of those too! (OF's)

Problem being is ya can't wear one on da boat.

Jake


"Pechs1" wrote in message
...
Jake- Oh how true.... LOL You know you've earned your "stripe" when
this is
less
green on your Nomenx Jacket than patches. :-) BRBR

Nomex??!!

How about the old nylon one? What true 'old farts' had/have-
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye
Phlyer

On 11/30/04 7:44 PM, in article Yl9rd.531$9n.143@lakeread04, "Jake Donovan"
wrote:

Woody,

Both the CWU 36P and CWU 45P, issued since the late 70's early 80's are
constructed of ARIMNID fibers. AKA Nomex. A quick look at the label will
tell you. Give me a day or so and I'll dig up the Pub #. Nylon is a no go
and has been. I know for a fact that all flight jackets issued in the last
15 years have been made of Arimid fibers. (Other than Leather)


Thanks for prompting some light Googling and self-edcucation. I stand
corrected, sir:

I looked at the label.
Jacket, Flyer's, Men's Summer
Type CWU-36/P
MIL-J-83382C
DLA100-93-C-0323
100% Aromatic polyamide
Carter Industries, INC.

According to

http://www.junantai.com/english/e14zrgzf.htm

That's Nomex (brand name) or "meta-position aromatic polymide."

Personally, I prefer the leather one. My winter jacket has my legacy
Intruder patches (up to O-3 or so). My summer is patchless (so far)... All
patches in the pockets. My leather is warmest.

I think what you will find is some of the old nylon jackets get by as few
people can see the difference. How old is yours?

I was on a boat a few weeks ago, I saw no nylon.


You must not hang out on the right boats.

Even the admiral (a shoe) wore one on USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT (CVN-71). We
reservists certainly wore ours... But then we wore flight suits in port too.
During my time with CVW-9, the CAG's and DCAG's wore them festooned with
patches from all the CVW squadrons... So did the ship's CO.

--Woody

Jake- Problem being is ya can't wear one on da boat. BRBR

I asnwer-why not? In the RR, walking arouind will somebody take you to task for
wearing a nylon flght jacket? Yikes, things have changed a LOT!! if true.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer