Airport security.

In article , Roy Smith
wrote:

Ok, I answered your question, now you get to answer mine. If you're so
worked up about them asking to look in my trunk, how do you feel about
people being kept in prisons with no due process and no access to legal
representation? It seems like that's the kind of thing we should be
worked up about. But maybe they're not the kind of people we get worked
up about?

Different laws for combatants from a war zone.
It depends on the circumstances under which they were apprehended and
what activities they were involved in.
American citizen vice illegal alien.
These are different times. The difficulty is telling the good guys from
the bad guys. The tactics in use to extract information require time,
the information extracted must be verified, etc. The enemy we now face
is patient and uses time to their advantage. The old days of set piece
warfare are over. This enemy is not a physical state, but a state of
mind.

Howdy!

In article ,
EDR wrote:
In article , Roy Smith
wrote:

Ok, I answered your question, now you get to answer mine. If you're so
worked up about them asking to look in my trunk, how do you feel about
people being kept in prisons with no due process and no access to legal
representation? It seems like that's the kind of thing we should be
worked up about. But maybe they're not the kind of people we get worked
up about?

Different laws for combatants from a war zone.

That doesn't describe everyone imprisoned without access to counsel, etc.

Of course Congress is sitting on its collective hands so firmly that they
are brown to the elbows instead of attempting to craft a legislative
approach that clarifies how it should work instead of leaving it up to
the courts to (effectively) legislate.

It depends on the circumstances under which they were apprehended and
what activities they were involved in.
American citizen vice illegal alien.

The current administration seems to think that citizenship is irrelevant,
even if apprehended on US soil.

These are different times. The difficulty is telling the good guys from
the bad guys. The tactics in use to extract information require time,
the information extracted must be verified, etc. The enemy we now face
is patient and uses time to their advantage. The old days of set piece
warfare are over. This enemy is not a physical state, but a state of
mind.

....and those who would sacrifice essential liberty for temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety...

yours,
Michael
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