Radio talk in the UK

Better to learn at learn that [Luton] level, than to learn at a grass
strip and be
frightened of going near a control zone.

Yes, definitely. I learned to fly at Norwich, and actually did about 10
hours out of RAF Coltishall, and so I got to do a lot of R/T that those
flying from little rural places wouldn't do. My R/T examiner commented that
he can always tell someone who's done their course at a fully-featured, busy
airport versus someone who's learned at a dinky place with an oft-silent
air-ground station and has no actual experience of (say) calling a military
guy for a MATZ crossing, or having a radar advisory service, or whatever.

D.

Exactly my point. I used to own a Warrior and flew virtually every week. I
just restarted after a three year layoff, although I flew with a friend
sometimes from Stapleford. My instructor at Luton said he could always tell
if someone had learned their R/T at a grass strip or a controlled airfield.
I learnt at Southend in the days when it had a control zone.
If you learnt at Norwich, you might have been to Earls Colne (EGSR). That's
where my plane was (and still is) based. Did a lot of flying around E.Anglia

John

"David Cartwright" wrote in message
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Better to learn at learn that [Luton] level, than to learn at a grass
strip and be
frightened of going near a control zone.

Yes, definitely. I learned to fly at Norwich, and actually did about 10
hours out of RAF Coltishall, and so I got to do a lot of R/T that those
flying from little rural places wouldn't do. My R/T examiner commented
that
he can always tell someone who's done their course at a fully-featured,
busy
airport versus someone who's learned at a dinky place with an oft-silent
air-ground station and has no actual experience of (say) calling a
military
guy for a MATZ crossing, or having a radar advisory service, or whatever.

D.

Its amazing in this day and age that telegraphic CW abbreviations (QNH &
QFE) are still being used instead of normal words. I guess it must just be
RT double talk.

In uk.rec.aviation beaudoin wrote:
: Its amazing in this day and age that telegraphic CW abbreviations (QNH &
: QFE) are still being used instead of normal words. I guess it must just be
: RT double talk.

"QNH" uses a bit less air time than "mean sea level pressure". I guess
one could argue that the use of "altimeter" across the other side of
the pond is a good use of "normal words", but as we use QFE and a
number of regional pressure settings as well, having short phrases to
differentiate between subscale settings is useful. Sure, we could come
up with words to replace the CW abbreviations but it would surely only
be change for the sake of change.

At least we don't have to phonetically spell out the
abbreviations. What is the queenie nan how today anway? :-)

And besides QNF is completely unnecessary if flying. If one cannot fly
without QNF, one cannot fly. QNF only serves to complicate things.

beaudoin wrote:

And besides QNF is completely unnecessary if flying.

QNF? What the hell should that be?

Stefan