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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 at 10:07:50 in message
, Peter Stickney wrote: Without a doubt, for revenue service. An inflight emergency on the San Fran-Hawaii leg would have meant a lost airplane due to fuel exhaustion, in most cases. Plus, even the shorter legs are still damned long - Even if you duplicated the route of the Pan Am flying boats - San Francisco-Honolulu-Midway-Wake-Manila-Hong Kong - it's still unworkable wrt safety, and the stops would have added tremendously to the travel time, annoyed the passengers, and shortened the life of the airframes. I am pretty sure that a Concorde flying from London to New York could be forced to descend halfway across to subsonic cruise and still make the destination. As I recall it was postulated that it might occasionally be necessary due to a sudden upsurge of Solar radiation. Radiation levels were monitored on the aircraft. A loss of one engine could also be dealt with in the same way. Just dug out a Concorde brochure, written when they still optimistically hoped to sell many and fly them all around the world. Pacific routes are included as follows West Coast of USA; Anchorage, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego and Acapulco were all shown as legs to Honolulu. Onward links from Honolulu were to Tokyo and to Auckland and Sydney via a stop at Nandi. West Coast USA to Australia in 2 stops - that's all. Other routes include London to Vancouver and Los Angeles via Churchill in Canada and flown subsonic over the USA to Los Angeles. I am not convinced that the subsonic range of Concorde was significantly different from the supersonic range. -- David CL Francis |
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![]() "David CL Francis" wrote in message ... Just dug out a Concorde brochure, written when they still optimistically hoped to sell many and fly them all around the world. Pacific routes are included as follows West Coast of USA; Anchorage, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego and Acapulco were all shown as legs to Honolulu. Onward links from Honolulu were to Tokyo and to Auckland and Sydney via a stop at Nandi. West Coast USA to Australia in 2 stops - that's all. If any more Concordes had been made, they would have been the "B" model. These would have had leading edge devices and other high lift tricks to lower take-off and lading speed. They also had more efficient engines. They apparently would have used 30% less fuel, giving the plane a longer range (I'm not sure I have this absolutely right, I'm quoting from my memory of reading Brian Trubshaw's autobiography). Regarding paying back of the design costs, it may well have happened if the airlines had taken up the 70+ options they initially specified. Of course, as has been mentioned, the venture as a whole continues to pay in the guise of Airbus. Paul |
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