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Old July 24th 03, 04:27 PM
Jim Weir
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If you want to have a good cry, ask Javier how much his annual cost him this
year {;-)


Jim




"Jay Honeck"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

- I have seen the IA repair his car and charge the labor to my plane.
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-I surely hope that you have posted the name of these criminals somewhere on
-Usenet. You've got to save your fellow pilots from these folks!
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-$35K for an annual goes far beyond the norm, into the realm of the obscene.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
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Old July 24th 03, 04:38 PM
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I switched shops this year for my annual . . . because last year the shop
charged me for my OWN labor! I was scheduled to fly down to the field today to
start, but damn if the Pres didn't decide to visit and have his usual 30nm TFR
closing the airport. Oh, well . . . it will end in about an hour . . .


www.Rosspilot.com


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Old July 25th 03, 02:57 AM
Javier Henderson
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Jim Weir writes:

If you want to have a good cry, ask Javier how much his annual cost him this
year {;-)


To say NOTHING of the highly abusive request for a six pack of
caffeinated diet coke! That added a whole buck fifty to the bill.

The total expense, including the above six pack, a new battery, 12 new
spark plugs, and a few other consumables, came to something like five
hundred bucks. I own a 1973 Cessna Skylane.

Owner assisted annuals rule. It boils down to sweat equity
vs. checkbook hara-kiri. I did all the prep work over a few evenings,
then Jim came over and did the inspection thing, and I reassembled the
plane over a few more evenings.

Highly recommended.

-jav
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Old July 25th 03, 02:01 PM
Rosspilot
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Owner assisted annuals rule. It boils down to sweat equity
vs. checkbook hara-kiri. I did all the prep work over a few evenings,
then Jim came over and did the inspection thing, and I reassembled the
plane over a few more evenings.

Highly recommended.


Great in theory. I did it two years in a row, spending 3 full days from 7 AM
till 4:30 PM in the shop doing EVERYTHIUNG the FARs allow me to do (under the
auspices of the IA).

I got billed for MY own labor, and the cost was just as if I had dropped the
plane off and gone fishing for 3 days.

My Skyhawk is in a different shop right now for my 6th annual. I'll let you
know how it goes when I get it back . . .
www.Rosspilot.com


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Old July 25th 03, 02:14 PM
Jay Masino
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Rosspilot wrote:
I got billed for MY own labor, and the cost was just as if I had dropped the
plane off and gone fishing for 3 days.


I'd still do it. For me, cost savings is only one, fairly minor factor.
In 11+ years, I've rarely allowed my plane to be dissasembled or
assembled, in any way, unless I've been there helping. I want to know
that things are being done correctly, with my own eyes.

-- Jay

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Old July 25th 03, 02:22 PM
Jay Honeck
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I'd still do it. For me, cost savings is only one, fairly minor factor.
In 11+ years, I've rarely allowed my plane to be dissasembled or
assembled, in any way, unless I've been there helping. I want to know
that things are being done correctly, with my own eyes.


Exactly. After the first three annuals (on a Cherokee anyway) you've pretty
much learned everything there is to learn.

Now, under the guise of "learning", we are really "supervising" in a quiet
way. It's surprising the stuff I catch -- and fix on the spot -- that
would end up buried under the floor boards.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old July 25th 03, 05:09 PM
Jim Weir
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When is your annual due, Jay? I **am** coming to town on Sunday, y'know {;-)


Jim



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-Now, under the guise of "learning", we are really "supervising" in a quiet
-way. It's surprising the stuff I catch -- and fix on the spot -- that
-would end up buried under the floor boards.


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com
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Old July 25th 03, 06:56 PM
Ben Jackson
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In article ,
Jim Weir wrote:
When is your annual due, Jay? I **am** coming to town on Sunday, y'know {;-)


I remember your pitch to supervise several owners doing annuals all
at once. You and Jay should arrange it as a fly-in to Jay's hotel.
The week before OSH is probably a bad time. Shame to ground someone
and leave them behind!

--
Ben Jackson

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Old July 26th 03, 04:58 AM
Jay Honeck
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When is your annual due, Jay? I **am** coming to town on Sunday, y'know
{;-)

Cripes, Jim, I just had it done in April/May...

But thanks anyway!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old July 26th 03, 01:26 AM
Ray Andraka
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Ditto. The times I've dropped off the keys, I nearly always found something
either not done or done incorrectly. That, and there is always some detail work
the A&P just doesn't like to do that I'll do...for example repainting engine
baffles.

Jay Masino wrote:

Rosspilot wrote:
I got billed for MY own labor, and the cost was just as if I had dropped the
plane off and gone fishing for 3 days.


I'd still do it. For me, cost savings is only one, fairly minor factor.
In 11+ years, I've rarely allowed my plane to be dissasembled or
assembled, in any way, unless I've been there helping. I want to know
that things are being done correctly, with my own eyes.

-- Jay

__!__
Jay and Teresa Masino ___(_)___
http://www2.ari.net/jmasino/ ! ! !

Checkout http://www.oc-adolfos.com/
for the best Italian food in Ocean City, MD and...
Checkout http://www.brolow.com/ for authentic Blues music on Delmarva


--
--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759


 




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