Best Single Pilot IFR Plane

Citation CJ1!!

It ain't cheap, but it is the BEST.

Not even close to the best. I have a friend with part of one (Netjets
share) . With the two pilots and two average size passengers and a Labrador
it can't go from San Diego to Sun Valley without refueling in a modest
headwind if its warm. The problem is that at FL350 it will only go about
350kts and even a modest headwind at that altitude is well over 100kts. I
forget which engines the CJ1 uses but the engines in the CitationJet cycled
out pretty fast so if you weren't flying long legs the engines would cycle
out well before overhaul. Piaggio and Premier are much better.

Mike
MU-2

"Tom S." wrote in message
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Citation CJ1!!

It ain't cheap, but it is the BEST.

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Not even close to the best. I have a friend with part of one (Netjets
share) . With the two pilots and two average size passengers and a
Labrador
it can't go from San Diego to Sun Valley without refueling in a modest
headwind if its warm.

Wrong.

The problem is that at FL350 it will only go about
350kts and even a modest headwind at that altitude is well over 100kts.

At FL350, it does 371 to 385, depending on weight.

I
forget which engines the CJ1 uses but the engines in the CitationJet
cycled
out pretty fast so if you weren't flying long legs the engines would cycle
out well before overhaul.

Geez...since you're so omniscient, I think you'd know that data. The engines
in the CJ/CJ1 are VERY different from the old 500 series.

http://www.williams-int.com/product/1a.htm

Piaggio and Premier are much better.

One a vibrator, the other isn't SP certified.

Geez!!!

"Tom S." wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Not even close to the best. I have a friend with part of one (Netjets
share) . With the two pilots and two average size passengers and a
Labrador
it can't go from San Diego to Sun Valley without refueling in a modest
headwind if its warm.

Wrong.

It is a fact.


The problem is that at FL350 it will only go about
350kts and even a modest headwind at that altitude is well over 100kts.

At FL350, it does 371 to 385, depending on weight.

Its pretty obvious that you are getting your info from their marketing
materials and have never owned or flown a turbine plane. The Cessna
marketing data is all based on ISA temperatures and the real temperatures in
the US are ISA +10C to ISA +20C extracting a huge performance penalty.

I
forget which engines the CJ1 uses but the engines in the CitationJet
cycled
out pretty fast so if you weren't flying long legs the engines would
cycle
out well before overhaul.

Geez...since you're so omniscient, I think you'd know that data. The
engines
in the CJ/CJ1 are VERY different from the old 500 series.

Again you seem to be operating from total ignorance. The CitationJet uses
F44-1A engines


http://www.williams-int.com/product/1a.htm

Piaggio and Premier are much better.

One a vibrator,
The Avanti is considerably quieter than the CJ1/2


the other isn't SP certified.

It isn't? Check again

Mike
MU-2

Piaggio Avanti P180 -

41,000 Feet

390 knots high speed Cruise - but normally about 360-365 at 330

Known Ice

Weather radar -

Pressurized to 4,000 feet w/ 9 psi max differential

1700 + nm Range w/ IFR reserves

Burns around 280/side at altitude (410)

We can do SF or L. Angeles to NJ non-stop with a nice tailwind...

Can land on a 2300 foot runway if you're good

Single Pilot Certified

Perfect safety record - Never an injury or fatality -

VERY VERY quiet with almost 6-foot headroom (ok, maybe 5'9" or so...but I',m
6'2" and never in the back)


Paul P


"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Tom S." wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Not even close to the best. I have a friend with part of one (Netjets
share) . With the two pilots and two average size passengers and a
Labrador
it can't go from San Diego to Sun Valley without refueling in a modest
headwind if its warm.

Wrong.

It is a fact.


The problem is that at FL350 it will only go about
350kts and even a modest headwind at that altitude is well over
100kts.

At FL350, it does 371 to 385, depending on weight.