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Old February 8th 04, 06:23 AM
BTIZ
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2050 SMOH on an 8000hr "training airplane:...

IIRC.. most C-152 engines hit TBO at 2000, so this engine is run out
already.. should not be any hours left in it..

BT

"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
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Me: 7x hour recently licenced PP-SEL.

Plane: '79 C152 being sold by my FBO for $19,200. TT is around 8000 (I
think), SMOH is 2050. Annual just done. This looks like an Ok deal to
me when comparing to like models, but the clincher is that they are
throwing in one year of hangering as well. That makes it look like a
pretty nice deal.

Ideally I'd like to go into this with a partner but I haven't been able
to find one and I do honestly think they'll unload this aircraft before
too long. Not sure if the price or terms are negotiable but I would
like to try to squeeze a second year of hangaring out of them.

Concerns:

- Engine has only a few hundred hours till TBO. I know that means
dropping another $10K or so within a few years.
- Plane has been abused by students (including me) for 25 years now (the
FBO bought it new).
- The only A&Ps I know that I could have take a look at it work for this
FBO.

Pros:

- The plane flies a lot; I know that's good for the engine.
- The FBO is reputable and I know they do their maintenance and take
care of squawks.

I'm torn in general on renting vs. owning right now. I anticipate
flying about 100 hours/year- by my calculations that's right around the
break-even point. However, knowing you're always going to have an
aircraft available to fly, even on short notice, is something you can't
put a direct dollar figure on.

I know this issue in general has been beat to death more than anything
else here, and I've read a lot of the old threads, but any and all
comments welcome. I'm much newer at all this than most of you here.

~Paul



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Old February 8th 04, 07:02 AM
MRQB
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I am no expert but i belive the 0-235 in a 152 is a 2,400 TBO


"BTIZ" wrote in message
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2050 SMOH on an 8000hr "training airplane:...

IIRC.. most C-152 engines hit TBO at 2000, so this engine is run out
already.. should not be any hours left in it..

BT

"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Me: 7x hour recently licenced PP-SEL.

Plane: '79 C152 being sold by my FBO for $19,200. TT is around 8000 (I
think), SMOH is 2050. Annual just done. This looks like an Ok deal to
me when comparing to like models, but the clincher is that they are
throwing in one year of hangering as well. That makes it look like a
pretty nice deal.

Ideally I'd like to go into this with a partner but I haven't been able
to find one and I do honestly think they'll unload this aircraft before
too long. Not sure if the price or terms are negotiable but I would
like to try to squeeze a second year of hangaring out of them.

Concerns:

- Engine has only a few hundred hours till TBO. I know that means
dropping another $10K or so within a few years.
- Plane has been abused by students (including me) for 25 years now (the
FBO bought it new).
- The only A&Ps I know that I could have take a look at it work for this
FBO.

Pros:

- The plane flies a lot; I know that's good for the engine.
- The FBO is reputable and I know they do their maintenance and take
care of squawks.

I'm torn in general on renting vs. owning right now. I anticipate
flying about 100 hours/year- by my calculations that's right around the
break-even point. However, knowing you're always going to have an
aircraft available to fly, even on short notice, is something you can't
put a direct dollar figure on.

I know this issue in general has been beat to death more than anything
else here, and I've read a lot of the old threads, but any and all
comments welcome. I'm much newer at all this than most of you here.

~Paul





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Old February 8th 04, 05:46 PM
BTIZ
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I am no expert but i belive the 0-235 in a 152 is a 2,400 TBO


you could be right... it's been so long since I've flown a straight 152...

most around here have been upgraded to 150HP conversions..

BT


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Old February 9th 04, 02:09 AM
Paul Folbrecht
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Really? 150 hp in a 152- that must be a fun airplane!

BTIZ wrote:

I am no expert but i belive the 0-235 in a 152 is a 2,400 TBO



you could be right... it's been so long since I've flown a straight 152...

most around here have been upgraded to 150HP conversions..

BT


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Old February 10th 04, 01:14 AM
BTIZ
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it's a gas... really.. on turbulent days you have to pull the power way back
to keep the cruise speed out of the yellow..

but on hot days 90F and up.. you appreciate the available power to get up
and out and high..

BT

"Paul Folbrecht" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Really? 150 hp in a 152- that must be a fun airplane!

BTIZ wrote:

I am no expert but i belive the 0-235 in a 152 is a 2,400 TBO



you could be right... it's been so long since I've flown a straight

152...

most around here have been upgraded to 150HP conversions..

BT




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Old February 10th 04, 01:51 AM
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To all of you who were touting this feller into a four-place...

Three or four gallons an hour more..
Annuals on four seats instead of two...
Two more jugs to get parts for at overhaul...
Tires wear out faster landing at 2300# than at 1650#..
Prop is about $2k more...
Nowhere NEAR as cozy as a two-seater...
And folks at Oshkosh say, "You came across country in THAT???"

(P.S. If you find a REALLY OLD 150 you get to park in classic parking at
Oshkosh...Margie, what's this year's cutoff date of manufacture?

Jim



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
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Old February 9th 04, 02:08 AM
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That is correct.


MRQB wrote:

I am no expert but i belive the 0-235 in a 152 is a 2,400 TBO

 




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