Getting a little sick of it all

Yes, its getting a little frustrating I think I am going to quit looking for
a while just to let my nerves settle a bit.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:iix1c.470784$na.1115474@attbi_s04...
I am getting sick and tired of rude, arrogant, sellers funny thing I
just
had a guy refuse to let my mechanic do a pre buy said he could not trust
my
mechanic to give an honest opinion and that if I cannot decide for my
self
if I wanted it or not then I don't need an airplane and don't need to be
an
airplane owner or a pilot with poor decision making skills.

Yeah, I've run into a couple of sellers who didn't want my mechanic
looking
at their planes.

I immediately assumed they were hiding something, and told 'em to pound
salt. But don't worry -- they are probably hiding something anyway, so
you've lost nothing by walking away.

IMHO, anyone who buys from someone like this is an idiot, and deserves to
be
parted from his or her money. Caveat emptor.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I agree with Jay. Anyone who won't let a mechanic look at it is hiding
something. Just thinking about it, 8000 hours for a 28 year old airplane is
285 hours per year. Everything I have ever read has said that a highly
active pilot only flies 50-60 hours per year. This one has been a worker.
I would suspect that someone went off a runway and collapsed the nose gear
about 700 hours ago which lead to the firewall repair ( what could you do to
a firewall other than replace it? ) and just happens to be detailed in the
missing log pages. In my airplane searches, I have found that about all
that is available in the winter ( non vfr ) months are the ones that didn't
sell in the summer. You might try your local paper, our local paper
www.oregonian.com ( listing 606 )seems to be a good place to find some
pretty good deals that aren't noticed by most of the aviation community.

Good Luck in your search.



"MRQB" wrote in message
...
Yes, its getting a little frustrating I think I am going to quit looking
for
a while just to let my nerves settle a bit.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:iix1c.470784$na.1115474@attbi_s04...
I am getting sick and tired of rude, arrogant, sellers funny thing I
just
had a guy refuse to let my mechanic do a pre buy said he could not
trust
my
mechanic to give an honest opinion and that if I cannot decide for my
self
if I wanted it or not then I don't need an airplane and don't need to
be
an
airplane owner or a pilot with poor decision making skills.

Yeah, I've run into a couple of sellers who didn't want my mechanic
looking
at their planes.

I immediately assumed they were hiding something, and told 'em to pound
salt. But don't worry -- they are probably hiding something anyway, so
you've lost nothing by walking away.

IMHO, anyone who buys from someone like this is an idiot, and deserves
to
be
parted from his or her money. Caveat emptor.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Robert Bates" wrote:
...Everything I have ever read has said that a highly
active pilot only flies 50-60 hours per year.

Really? I thought that 50-60 hours per year would be more like
"average."

I fly about 120 hr/yr and still don't consider myself "highly active."
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)

"Dan Luke" wrote
Really? I thought that 50-60 hours per year would be more like
"average."

I fly about 120 hr/yr and still don't consider myself "highly active."

The average private airplane flies 26 hours a year.

Michael

"Michael" wrote:
The average private airplane flies 26 hours a year.

That surprises me.

Two hours/month; seems hardly worth the bother.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)

Two hours/month; seems hardly worth the bother.

That's for sure.

Of course, that's an AVERAGE number. In that total you've got folks like
Mary and me, who fly every few days -- AND the folks who own the Hangar
Queens that never, ever move.

Which brings up two more questions he

1. WHY own a plane, and never fly it?
2. Do you feel comfortable sharing the sky with someone who flies just 2
hours per month?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
2. Do you feel comfortable sharing the sky with someone
who flies just 2 hours per month?

It takes some of the fun out of flying on a perfect, windless, sunny
Saturday that's neither too hot nor too cold. That's when the real
goobers come out. It can be fun listening to ATC dealing with them,
though.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM
(remove pants to reply by email)

Jay Honeck wrote:

2. Do you feel comfortable sharing the sky with someone who flies just 2
hours per month?

Well, if you don't feel comfortable sharing with me, then stay on the ground.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Two hours/month; seems hardly worth the bother.

That's for sure.

Of course, that's an AVERAGE number. In that total you've got folks like
Mary and me, who fly every few days -- AND the folks who own the Hangar
Queens that never, ever move.

Which brings up two more questions he

1. WHY own a plane, and never fly it?
2. Do you feel comfortable sharing the sky with someone who flies just 2
hours per month?

Well, added it up, I flew 30 hours 55 minutes over the past year.

1) I fly whenever I can. Even if only for a 45 minute local jaunt. In
fact, most of my flying is 45min - 1.5 hour local. Why own? Because
if I didn't, I'd be doing maybe 10-12 hours a year. Maybe not even
that. Maybe I'd have given up. As it is, I can drive down and take off
whenever the weather's nice and I have time. I can fly "home" for the
weekend, I can fly away all day, I can go and have a two hour lunch
somewhere and not have to worry about getting the plane back for the
next person within a 2 hour slot. I don't have to book two weeks in
advance and hope for the best weather wise then wait another two
weeks before trying again if I can't fly.

I also like the plane I have, none of this Cessper stuff.

Is my flying worth the bother? Well, judge from my previous posts
on here! :-)

2) As the low time pilot, I have observed two things. If I fly during the
week, I'm usually the least competent, at least everyone else seems to
know exactly what they're doing. If I fly at weekends, my relative
confidence/competence level seems to go up quite a bit!

Paul

Jay Honeck wrote:
Two hours/month; seems hardly worth the bother.
That's for sure.

That's NOT for sure. There are times that I can only fly 2 hours per
month, but I'll bet I'm just as good as a pilot as you, if not better.

Of course, that's an AVERAGE number. In that total you've got folks like
Mary and me, who fly every few days -- AND the folks who own the Hangar
Queens that never, ever move.

Which brings up two more questions he

1. WHY own a plane, and never fly it?
2. Do you feel comfortable sharing the sky with someone who flies just 2
hours per month?

I think the 2 hour a month generalization is misleading. If you fly once
a month, for 2 hours, then you're probably rusty. If you fly once a
week, for a 1/2 hour, which has several takeoffs and landings, then
you're probably staying as sharp as anyone else (other than the guys who
are lucky enough to fly every day).

--- Jay


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