Getting a little sick of it all

In article SJx1c.37294$PR3.745133@attbi_s03, "Robert Bates"
writes:

I agree with Jay. Anyone who won't let a mechanic look at it is hiding
something.

Not always, it's a two way street. Seven years ago when I bought my plane, the
owner flew it to my airport and my A&P did the pre-buy. Owner kept saying "I
should just go back home. I don't want to sell this plane" and I kept thinking
"Doesn't matter much what Tom finds, I want this plane." Well, someone
protects those in love, the plane passed, and all has gone well for the last
seven years.

However, now as an owner, I can see both sides. What if my A&P and I had been
dishonest? The A&P grounds the plane and my negotiating position sure has
improved. What if the inspection damaged something? You who have sold a
plane, (this one is my first) what are your comments. Can you have a pre-buy
by an A&P and not give him the option to ground the plane?

Chuck

(PaulaJay1) writes:

In article SJx1c.37294$PR3.745133@attbi_s03, "Robert Bates"
writes:

I agree with Jay. Anyone who won't let a mechanic look at it is hiding
something.

Not always, it's a two way street. Seven years ago when I bought my plane, the
owner flew it to my airport and my A&P did the pre-buy. Owner kept saying "I
should just go back home. I don't want to sell this plane" and I kept thinking
"Doesn't matter much what Tom finds, I want this plane." Well, someone
protects those in love, the plane passed, and all has gone well for the last
seven years.

However, now as an owner, I can see both sides. What if my A&P and I had been
dishonest? The A&P grounds the plane and my negotiating position sure has
improved. What if the inspection damaged something? You who have sold a
plane, (this one is my first) what are your comments. Can you have a pre-buy
by an A&P and not give him the option to ground the plane?

I'd ask the buyer to come with his mechanic to my hangar. He can ground
the plane all he wants, if the mechanic is just being a jerk, I'll get my
mechanic to undo the paperwork death.

A friend of mine was selling his Mooney, and flew it to the buyer's
choice of mechanic. It passed, but for reasons I don't recall, my
friend flew back home in the Mooney. A couple of days later, he takes
it to his shop for an oil change, and the mechanic there points out
how the landing gear doors had been misrigged during the prepurchase
inspection.

All ended well, but it's something I've been thinking about ever since.

-jav

PaulaJay1 wrote:

Can you have a pre-buy
by an A&P and not give him the option to ground the plane?

An A&P cannot ground an aircraft.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

"G.R. Patterson III" writes:

PaulaJay1 wrote:

Can you have a pre-buy
by an A&P and not give him the option to ground the plane?

An A&P cannot ground an aircraft.

I won't engage in a nitpicking contest over the rules. I'm 100% sure
that an A&P can cause enough grief to effectively ground the airplane
to the point where you need another one to be able to legally fly it
again. I'm not talking about taking a sledgehammer to the leading
edges or other blatant nonsense, either.

-jav

The PreBuy A&P is working for the buyer to determine if the plane is worth
the price to him. He's not working for the seller and has no authority to
make
any notations at all in the log. Now if he feels he has a strong enough case
that
the plane is unairworthy he could sure call the FAA. Let the A&P look over
the
logs, then take them back into your possession. I think it would be pretty
foolish
to let your airplane go to another airport to an A&P not known to you along
with it's logs.


"PaulaJay1" wrote in message
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In article SJx1c.37294$PR3.745133@attbi_s03, "Robert Bates"
writes:

You who have sold a
plane, (this one is my first) what are your comments. Can you have a
pre-buy
by an A&P and not give him the option to ground the plane?

Chuck