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Old March 18th 04, 11:16 PM
Javier Henderson
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"Mike Rapoport" writes:

$500 to $550.


The RMD HID kit is cheaper, and STC'd for Jay's Cherokee.

I installed the kits in my Skylane, with an easy field approval using
that STC as the basis.

-jav
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Old March 18th 04, 11:37 PM
Jay Masino
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Javier Henderson wrote:
I would like a brighter landing light -- but I ain't paying $800 for it!

Yep, the RMD HID kit, half the price, STC'd for your Cherokee.
http://www.rmdaircraft.com/
Bob DeBorde (RMD) had the patience of a german elf answering all of
my questions before I finally bought the kits for my Skylane.
They work great, and they are super bright. Very pleased with the product
and the service.


It's not STC'ed for a 235, because of the tip tanks.


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Old March 19th 04, 12:32 AM
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It's not STC'ed for a 235, because of the tip tanks.

Damn.

Oh well -- I'll take those extra 34 gallons of gas over a landing light, any
day!

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Old March 19th 04, 01:53 AM
Michelle P
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George; Jay,
Try two one in each wing.
I have a Q4509 in the right wing aimed slightly down so it lights the
runway when on final and a 4509 in the left wing for taxiing. It is
aimed ahead with the tail down. Works great!
Michelle

G.R. Patterson III wrote:

Jay Masino wrote:


Replace the standard GE 4509 with a Q4509 (Quarts Halogen).



If you do this, be aware that the beam will reach further, but it will not be
as wide. Some people have problems with this. I put the halogen in my Maule and
don't like them much at all. They're great on short final, but don't illuminate
anything useful much once the tail's down.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.



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Old March 19th 04, 02:04 AM
Michelle P
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Javier,
I have installed these on a clients Arrow.
Nice kit. It took about 8 hours total to install the wiring and drill
the new tip caps to fit the existing holes in the wings.
Michelle

Javier Henderson wrote:

"Jay Honeck" writes:



Is there one?

I would like a brighter landing light -- but I ain't paying $800 for it!



Yep, the RMD HID kit, half the price, STC'd for your Cherokee.

http://www.rmdaircraft.com/

Bob DeBorde (RMD) had the patience of a german elf answering all of
my questions before I finally bought the kits for my Skylane.

They work great, and they are super bright. Very pleased with the product
and the service.

-jav



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Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P

"Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike)

Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic

Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity

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Old March 19th 04, 03:43 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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Michelle P wrote:

I have a Q4509 in the right wing aimed slightly down so it lights the
runway when on final and a 4509 in the left wing for taxiing. It is
aimed ahead with the tail down. Works great!


I think that mine are not aimed differently, but I could be wrong. Mine seem to
have aluminum mirrors over the lights to reflect light on the ground while taxiing.
I had a halogen in one side and normal bulb in the other, but made the mistake of
putting in another halogen when the plain one burned out.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.
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Old March 19th 04, 04:24 AM
Ray Andraka
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The skytec lights can be used on a 235 or Six with the fiberglass tip tanks.
They get installed in the leading edge of the wing, inboard of the tip. I
have them on my PA-32. They cost me a tad over $1K to install in 1997.

Jay Masino wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:
Replace the standard GE 4509 with a Q4509 (Quarts Halogen). They're
usually about $25, instead of $10.

I haven't run anything but Q4509s since '98.
They're better, and last longer -- but they still suck.


I guess you could always install some of those landing lights that mount
in the leading edges of the wings. It's a shame that 235's can't use the
ones that mount in the wingtips. I'm sure someone must make a kit for the
Cherokees.

--- Jay

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Old March 19th 04, 04:29 AM
Jay Honeck
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The skytec lights can be used on a 235 or Six with the fiberglass tip
tanks.
They get installed in the leading edge of the wing, inboard of the tip. I
have them on my PA-32. They cost me a tad over $1K to install in 1997.


Any trouble with leakage into the wing structure?

I've got a friend with a Bellanca, which has a similar leading edge landing
light. Water infiltration through the landing light structure is a
potentially major problem area with the Bellanca's wooden wing.

I would suspect the bulbs last considerably longer, so far from the source
of vibration -- true?
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Iowa City, IA
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Old March 19th 04, 01:53 PM
Dennis O'Connor
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I changed two landing light bulbs in the 9 years I had my Super Viking...
Never had water infiltration... I simply used a thin bead of non hardening
marine caulk around the perimeter of the plexiglass...
denny

"Jay Honeck" wrote
I would suspect the bulbs last considerably longer, so far from the source
of vibration -- true?
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old March 19th 04, 02:12 PM
Ray Andraka
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I haven't had any problems with leaks around the lights. I get much more water
in around the gas tanks and in the lap joint in wing skins than I do around the
lights. I've only replaced one bulb in the wings in 700+ hours since
installing them. I have the skytec version of the pulse light on them, which is
turned on for every flight. In the same amount of time, I've gone through a
half dozen nose light lamps, and that one is only on during approach at night.

Jay Honeck wrote:

The skytec lights can be used on a 235 or Six with the fiberglass tip

tanks.
They get installed in the leading edge of the wing, inboard of the tip. I
have them on my PA-32. They cost me a tad over $1K to install in 1997.


Any trouble with leakage into the wing structure?

I've got a friend with a Bellanca, which has a similar leading edge landing
light. Water infiltration through the landing light structure is a
potentially major problem area with the Bellanca's wooden wing.

I would suspect the bulbs last considerably longer, so far from the source
of vibration -- true?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


--
--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759


 




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