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Old April 16th 04, 06:45 PM
Tony Cox
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If you are under thirty and aren't a Democrat, you have no heart.

If you are over thirty and aren't a Republican, you have no brain.

Or so I've been told...


Actually, it's another from Winston Churchill (who as I remember
changed political party himself, probably at age 30).

"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man
who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."


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Old April 16th 04, 09:31 PM
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Churchill was a smart man, but I don't agree with him on this one. The
point seems to be that one's personal needs become more important than
the needs of the group after a certain age. I don't believe liberals
are that brainless, nor conservatives that heartless.

While it may happen to many people, for me it is nonsense. I am far
more liberal---and sure of myself in choosing so---since I turned 30.

Frankly since I began acquiring things like houses and airplanes, I have
realized how important these things are and how short life is. I have
realized that there is nothing magic about me that makes me deserve
these things more than other people.

I would rephrase it to say that anyone who is over 30 and is still a
liberal has done some important thinking about their rights and
responsibilities. Same goes for conservatives, I just don't agree with
the conclusions they came to. Que sera sera.


Actually, it's another from Winston Churchill (who as I remember
changed political party himself, probably at age 30).

"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man
who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."



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Old April 16th 04, 10:09 PM
Otis Winslow
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Why is it that Liberals always feel guilty for what they have? And even
more worrisome is why do Liberals feel guilty for what OTHERS have
and want to take it away from them and give it to someone who hasn't
managed to earn and have much.

There was a time when I didn't have anything. I worked hard and now
I have things. I want to keep them. They're mine. I don't want Liberals to
play
Robin Hood with my stuff and give it to those not inclined to get their
own stuff.

Liberal govt has no legal right to take stuff from one group and give it
to another. They have a right to take from us enough to operate govt and
provide for our physical security. That's it. No Robin Hood stuff.

They know that at some point we will have had enough and their **** will
be in the wind. THAT is why they don't want us to have guns. We will
use them to defend our stuff. Now THAT scares them Liberals.

The very guiltless and Libertarian Otis W.

"Musky" wrote in message
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Churchill was a smart man, but I don't agree with him on this one. The
point seems to be that one's personal needs become more important than
the needs of the group after a certain age. I don't believe liberals
are that brainless, nor conservatives that heartless.

While it may happen to many people, for me it is nonsense. I am far
more liberal---and sure of myself in choosing so---since I turned 30.

Frankly since I began acquiring things like houses and airplanes, I have
realized how important these things are and how short life is. I have
realized that there is nothing magic about me that makes me deserve
these things more than other people.

I would rephrase it to say that anyone who is over 30 and is still a
liberal has done some important thinking about their rights and
responsibilities. Same goes for conservatives, I just don't agree with
the conclusions they came to. Que sera sera.


Actually, it's another from Winston Churchill (who as I remember
changed political party himself, probably at age 30).

"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any

man
who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."





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Old April 16th 04, 11:27 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
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Why is it that Liberals always feel guilty for what they have? And even
more worrisome is why do Liberals feel guilty for what OTHERS have
and want to take it away from them and give it to someone who hasn't
managed to earn and have much.

There was a time when I didn't have anything. I worked hard and now
I have things. I want to keep them. They're mine. I don't want Liberals to
play
Robin Hood with my stuff and give it to those not inclined to get their
own stuff.

Liberal govt has no legal right to take stuff from one group and give it
to another. They have a right to take from us enough to operate govt and
provide for our physical security. That's it. No Robin Hood stuff.

They know that at some point we will have had enough and their **** will
be in the wind. THAT is why they don't want us to have guns. We will
use them to defend our stuff. Now THAT scares them Liberals.

The very guiltless and Libertarian Otis W.


Didja ever notice how liberals are more than willing to take other peoples
assets and redistribute them but are more than willing to keep their assets
to themselves.



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Old April 17th 04, 12:09 AM
Peter Gottlieb
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Didja ever notice how liberals are more than willing to take other peoples
assets and redistribute them but are more than willing to keep their

assets
to themselves.


And the "conservatives" are different, how?


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Old April 17th 04, 06:04 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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And the "conservatives" are different, how?


Conservatives don't want to take other peoples assets and redistribute them.


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Old April 17th 04, 03:47 PM
Judah
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Correct. They want to just take other peoples assets and keep them.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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And the "conservatives" are different, how?


Conservatives don't want to take other peoples assets and redistribute
them.



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Old April 17th 04, 09:13 PM
Doug Carter
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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And the "conservatives" are different, how?


Conservatives object to excessive government spending,
especially when it is used to force social engineering.
Brian Riedl at the Heritage Foundation notes (quoted in part):

The federal government is projected to spend $21,671 per
household in 2004 — the most since World War II and $3,500
more than in 2001. Here is a breakdown of where that
$21,671 goes:

-Social Security and Medica $7,165
-Low-income programs: $3,479
-Interest on the federal debt: $1,460
-Federal employee retirement benefits: $835
-Unemployment benefits: $451
-Interest on the federal debt: $1,460

-Defense: $4,240, Veterans benefits: $565

-Health research and regulation: $619
-Education: $583
-Highways and mass transit: $400
-Justice administration: $389
-International affairs: $320

The programs listed above cover $20,506 per household. The
remaining $1,165 is allocated to all other federal
programs, including farm subsidies, environmental
programs, space exploration, air transportation and
community development.
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Old April 19th 04, 03:53 AM
David Brooks
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
m...

Didja ever notice how liberals are more than willing to take other peoples
assets and redistribute them but are more than willing to keep their

assets
to themselves.


What trash. I'll compare my asset redistribution against yours any day,
punk.

-- David Brooks


 




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