GA paying fair (fare?) share

Dude wrote:
: Having seen the recent diatribes from airline executives, I feel like I
: could just about throw up.

: Don't these idiots realize that if it was not for their "all important"
: fleets of precious cargo we could slash ATC by 90 plus percent?

It was my understanding that the diatribe from NWA had to do with fees
for use of the AIRPORT, not with the use of ATC services. Have the other
airlines' execs added ATC services to the list of things that they can't
pay for anymore?

It seems to me that when the airlines stop pricing their product below what
it costs to produce they'll be in better financial shape.
--
Aaron Coolidge

With the amount of government cash gifts given to the airlines to keep them
afloat, I fail to see where they have any room to complain. The government
cash handouts far exceed any financial burdens, real or imagined, that the GA
community has placed on the airlines.


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"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

Apparently, the latest guy brought up a statistic about how many ATC
functions are performed for GA vs. the scheduled carriers.

If NW is PO'd about their airport costs, they should remember how easy they
got off when MN finally caught them a few years back. They had locked up
all the gates, and many of the routes in and out of the Twin cities which
only they flew had HUGE prices. I bet this led to more GA competition, and
they are now suffering for it.

"Aaron Coolidge" wrote in message
...
Dude wrote:
: Having seen the recent diatribes from airline executives, I feel like I
: could just about throw up.

: Don't these idiots realize that if it was not for their "all important"
: fleets of precious cargo we could slash ATC by 90 plus percent?

It was my understanding that the diatribe from NWA had to do with fees
for use of the AIRPORT, not with the use of ATC services. Have the other
airlines' execs added ATC services to the list of things that they can't
pay for anymore?

It seems to me that when the airlines stop pricing their product below
what
it costs to produce they'll be in better financial shape.
--
Aaron Coolidge

Dude wrote:
: Apparently, the latest guy brought up a statistic about how many ATC
: functions are performed for GA vs. the scheduled carriers.

Since the airlines don't really pay for ATC services (neither does GA), this
little statistic should be treated as the worthless tidbit that it is.
The fuel tax assists in paying for ATC. The remainder of the money come from
the government's budget. This is not as unfair as some are making it out
to be. Every person in the US benefits from the ATC system, even if they
never fly! If you (1) eat food, (2) wear clothes or (3) have a job your
life has been improved by ATC.
--
Aaron Coolidge

"Aaron Coolidge" wrote in message
...

Since the airlines don't really pay for ATC services (neither does GA),
this
little statistic should be treated as the worthless tidbit that it is.
The fuel tax assists in paying for ATC.


I haven't seen figures for several years now, but unless there've been some
significant changes, user fees cover about 85% of the cost of ATC. It'd be
more accurate to say the general fund assists in paying for ATC.

Aaron Coolidge ) wrote:

Every person in the US benefits from the ATC system, even if they
never fly! If you (1) eat food, (2) wear clothes or (3) have a job your
life has been improved by ATC.

Not to mention the improvement in safety to those on the ground. Imagine
how many more ground-based deaths there might be without an ATC system
controlling the aircraft above their heads.

--
Peter












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