Handheld GPS auto mount OK?

Yeah, but what happens if you get ramped? That's my concern.

"Newps" wrote in message
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"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
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I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the
auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick
stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield
this
way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s
and
stuff?

What about using strong Velcro? Will that pass muster with the FAA as a
temporary installation?

I've used velcro for my Garmin Pilot III for the last 5 years. I also
hardwired it into the aircraft. Couldn't possibly care less what the FAA
thinks.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:44:30 -0500, "Henry Kisor"
wrote:

Yeah, but what happens if you get ramped? That's my concern.

IF you get ramped and IF the inspector thinks the mount is permanent
grab it with both hands and rip it off. The 2 sided tape isn't that
strong that it can't be removed. I think they probably see an awful
lot of these mounts and won't be concerned about it. Better to have it
firmly attached than flying around the cockpit in turbulance.



"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
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I've just bought myself a new Garmin handheld GPS. I noticed that the
auto
dash mount is stuck to the dashboard with some kind of double-stick
stuff.
Is it OK by the FAA to stick the mount onto my airplane's glare shield
this
way, or do they consider it a permanent installation and require 337s
and
stuff?

Drew Dalgleish wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:44:30 -0500, "Henry Kisor"
wrote:

Yeah, but what happens if you get ramped? That's my concern.

IF you get ramped and IF the inspector thinks the mount is permanent
grab it with both hands and rip it off. The 2 sided tape isn't that
strong that it can't be removed. I think they probably see an awful
lot of these mounts and won't be concerned about it. Better to have it
firmly attached than flying around the cockpit in turbulance.


If you get ramp checked, what the heck is the inspector doing pawing
through your cockpit? Hand him the required paperwork and put the sun
screens into place. He has no business inspecting the inside of your
cockpit.

Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

"Frank Stutzman" wrote in message
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If you get ramp checked, what the heck is the inspector doing pawing
through your cockpit? Hand him the required paperwork and put the sun
screens into place. He has no business inspecting the inside of your
cockpit.

I've never been ramped where he comes walking up by suprise but if he wants
to look inside he certainly can.

Henry, are you telling us that for all these years you have been flying
around using VORs, NDBs, and those funny colors on the chart for
navigation!?!?

For what it's worth, Velcro itself is held on with sticky tape.

If you ever want to remove it, beware trying to get that sticky stuff
off of Royalite without damaging the surface underneath---a little WD40
may help.

What's a VOR? What's a NDB? I fly IFR -- I Follow Roads.

Just kidding. I've used a Trimble Flightmate Pro with yoke mount for quite a
while.

Henry

"Elwood Dowd" wrote in message
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Henry, are you telling us that for all these years you have been flying
around using VORs, NDBs, and those funny colors on the chart for
navigation!?!?

For what it's worth, Velcro itself is held on with sticky tape.

If you ever want to remove it, beware trying to get that sticky stuff
off of Royalite without damaging the surface underneath---a little WD40
may help.

"Elwood Dowd" wrote in message
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Henry, are you telling us that for all these years you have been flying
around using VORs, NDBs, and those funny colors on the chart for
navigation!?!?

For what it's worth, Velcro itself is held on with sticky tape.

You want to see something sticky look at those little 3M pads that hold
satellite radio mounts on. You can get them off but you ain't gonna just
grab a corner and pull. I have a sat radio mount on the windshield just
forward of the forward door post, copilots side. Between the panel and the
post. So I fly along with the little remote control changing channels.

"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
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Yeah, but what happens if you get ramped? That's my concern.

I submitted myself for a ramp inspection a year ago May. FAA calls it the
PACE program. You bring your plane and your logbooks for them to inspect.
They look over everything and tell you what concerns they have, if any.
Then you go fly with them for an hour and they put you thru a private pilot
checkride, more or less. It seems to be tailored to your experience level
and how you normally fly. I have found FSDO to be remarkably nice. They
didn't find anything on my plane that was even a minor concern and I brought
a lot of things to their attention. Such as my leather interior. Since it
has to meet FAR 23.853 for fire I simply showed him the piece of cardboard
that the sample material was attached to that I copied. He thought that was
great. I carry three weight and balance figures at all times in the plane,
on one sheet of paper. Depending on what seats I have installed you have to
look at a certain section of that paper. He thought that was pretty cool.
They pretty much only care that you have an airworthiness cert, an annual, a
medical and a pilot cert. As long as your plane isn't grossly illegal
they're pretty cool.