Philosophical question on owning & IFR rating

PInc972390 wrote:

b. Add a NARCO 121 NAV in the round hole. With Glideslope.

Get an autopilot to fit the hole.

Good idea, but that still leaves me with the problem of handling approaches in which
the FAF is the intersection of radials from two VORs. Any solution I can think of
fills that hole with either a radio or a CDI.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

PInc972390 wrote:

b. Add a NARCO 121 NAV in the round hole. With Glideslope.

Get an autopilot to fit the hole.

Good idea, but that still leaves me with the problem of handling approaches
in which
the FAF is the intersection of radials from two VORs. Any solution I can
think of
fills that hole with either a radio or a CDI.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

Get a GPS. Some of them have built-in CDI right on the front panel
display. I don't find them very convenient, but they are legal.

Roy Smith wrote:

Get a GPS. Some of them have built-in CDI right on the front panel
display. I don't find them very convenient, but they are legal.

I thought you had to have a separate CDI to use one as a primary navigation tool for
approaches. Is that incorrect?

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Roy Smith wrote:

Get a GPS. Some of them have built-in CDI right on the front panel
display. I don't find them very convenient, but they are legal.

I thought you had to have a separate CDI to use one as a primary navigation
tool for approaches. Is that incorrect?

My understanding (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) is that some
of the newer units (I'm thinking specifically of the CNX-80) are
certified such that you don't need an external CDI, as long as the unit
is mounted so that the built-in one is within some specified distance
from the pilot's center of vision, or some such.

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:04:32 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:

In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Roy Smith wrote:

Get a GPS. Some of them have built-in CDI right on the front panel
display. I don't find them very convenient, but they are legal.

I thought you had to have a separate CDI to use one as a primary navigation
tool for approaches. Is that incorrect?

My understanding (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) is that some
of the newer units (I'm thinking specifically of the CNX-80) are
certified such that you don't need an external CDI, as long as the unit
is mounted so that the built-in one is within some specified distance
from the pilot's center of vision, or some such.


As I understand it a "separate" CDI means one not shared by two
navigation devices (radios). Having the built in display adheres to
the separate requirement. I don't believe there is any requirement to
use an external display.

HTH.
z

In article ,
Roy Smith wrote:
My understanding (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) is that some
of the newer units (I'm thinking specifically of the CNX-80) are
certified such that you don't need an external CDI, as long as the unit
is mounted so that the built-in one is within some specified distance
from the pilot's center of vision, or some such.

I think that applies to the annunciator (msg, ptk) which is displayed in
the lower-lefthand corner of the CNX-80. I don't think it applies to
the CDI, but you could download the install guide from Garmin's site and
find out. I looked into it once. Sadly my radio stack is too far from
the centerline.

--
Ben Jackson

http://www.ben.com/

Ben Jackson wrote:

I don't think it applies to
the CDI, but you could download the install guide from Garmin's site and
find out.

Thanks -- I'll do that.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

G.R. Patterson III wrote:


: Ben Jackson wrote:
:
: I don't think it applies to
: the CDI, but you could download the install guide from Garmin's site and
: find out.

: Thanks -- I'll do that.

George, you certainly do need an external CDI for any of the GPS units, up
to and including the 430/530. It can be located anywhere on the panel.
You do not need an external annunciator panel with the 430/530.
Mid-continent makes a line of 2.5" CDI units compatible with just about
every IFR GPS, the MD-40 series. I have one of these in my plane for
my IFR GPS, located just to the right of the TC. It works like a charm.
If you can wait a couple days, I can take a picture of it.
--
Aaron Coolidge (N9376J)

I had an avionics guy tell me that my VOR head (localizer only, no GS) could
be used if we added a GPS. A switch to toggle from receiving from VOR head
or GPS would do it. That right?

"Ben Jackson" wrote in message
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In article ,
Roy Smith wrote:
My understanding (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) is that some
of the newer units (I'm thinking specifically of the CNX-80) are
certified such that you don't need an external CDI, as long as the unit
is mounted so that the built-in one is within some specified distance
from the pilot's center of vision, or some such.

I think that applies to the annunciator (msg, ptk) which is displayed in
the lower-lefthand corner of the CNX-80. I don't think it applies to
the CDI, but you could download the install guide from Garmin's site and
find out. I looked into it once. Sadly my radio stack is too far from
the centerline.

--
Ben Jackson

http://www.ben.com/

Steven Barnes wrote:

I had an avionics guy tell me that my VOR head (localizer only, no GS) could
be used if we added a GPS. A switch to toggle from receiving from VOR head
or GPS would do it. That right?

I have heard that that is sometimes the case. Depends on the VOR head and GPS. Do you
have a NARCO VOR head? If so, that means mine might work that way, though mine has
the GS needle.

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.