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Old October 10th 04, 05:32 AM
Howard Nelson
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"C Kingsbury" wrote in message
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On 8 Oct 2004 20:58:55 -0700, (Doug)
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Not sure if that's entirely true. Another way to put it is that
Garmin will support their product as long as they can turn a profit
that is acceptable to the fat cats on top. How many of the portable


I actually like the Apollo GX units best out of all of these, but the
support factor really worries me. Though Jeppesen has every incentive to
keep selling database updates, Garmin also has plenty of incentives to

make
supporting them a low priority. Likewise the Garmin first-gen boxes. I can
imagine them at some point saying, we won't support this anymore, but

we'll
give you $500 off a new GNS-XXX or a year of free database updates if you
trade it in.

Garmin doesn't really have to compete too much right now. They've lapped
King in terms of panel-mount GPS and even nailed Avidyne to the wall on
glass panels. After all, while the G-1000 is an all-garmin product, the
Entegra always seems to come with Garmin radios. So they don't even need

to
buy that one out like they did Apollo.

-cwk.


I do have experience with Jeppesen support and it seems very good. I have a
Trimble (remember them) TLN-2000 panel mount combo GPS/Loran. Think I bought
it in 1994 and still can get data base cards from Jeppesen even though
Trimble has gotten out of the general aviation market (liability perhaps?).
I haven't gotten an replacement GPS yet because it would require from the
ground up installation. None of the existing interfaces (antennas,
autopilot, trays, etc) could be reused. Have Garmin 196 for mapping and non
GPS instrument install for instrument flight.

All that being said I don't think I could get a decent IFR certified GPS
installed and interfaced to my autopilot (STEC 50) for less than 10K.
Probably would be more.
Howard C182P

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Old October 10th 04, 06:10 AM
C Kingsbury
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"Howard Nelson" wrote in message
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I do have experience with Jeppesen support and it seems very good. I have

a

That's my point- The way Jeppesen sees it, they make (roughly) the same
money selling you an update for a first-generation steam-powered GPS as they
do a G-1000. Discontinuing support for a particular unit would in most cases
cost more than it saves. But what happens if the box needs repair? Are there
3rd-party shops that can fix this stuff, or do you rely on the mfr. giving a
crap? King I'd feel comfortable relying on but Garmin, nope.

All that being said I don't think I could get a decent IFR certified GPS
installed and interfaced to my autopilot (STEC 50) for less than 10K.
Probably would be more.


I wish I had an autopilot that needed interfacing to. Heck, I wish I had an
autopilot period. In any case that adds significantly to install cost. One
of the flight schools on my field has been spending about 6k each putting
IFR GPSs in all their Warriors and Skyhawks over the past couple years.

-cwk.


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Old October 25th 04, 07:08 AM
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The KLN89 is fine so long as you don't actually use it for an approach.
When I did my instrument rating I was the only pilot in a large school to
successfully load an approach. Not one of 14 Instructors had been able to
do it.

Garmin AT has kept the people who were at UPS - this has not been a cut &
gut acquisition. I know people who were part of Apollo/UPS and they think
it was a good deal for them. UPS did not care about them at all.

The GX-50/60 is the best unit out there if you can find one. I'm sticking
with mine until they eliminate the ILS equipment and demand that we all go
to C146 equipment.


 




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