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![]() "C Kingsbury" wrote in message link.net... "Al Marzo" wrote in message ... On 8 Oct 2004 20:58:55 -0700, (Doug) wrote: Not sure if that's entirely true. Another way to put it is that Garmin will support their product as long as they can turn a profit that is acceptable to the fat cats on top. How many of the portable I actually like the Apollo GX units best out of all of these, but the support factor really worries me. Though Jeppesen has every incentive to keep selling database updates, Garmin also has plenty of incentives to make supporting them a low priority. Likewise the Garmin first-gen boxes. I can imagine them at some point saying, we won't support this anymore, but we'll give you $500 off a new GNS-XXX or a year of free database updates if you trade it in. Garmin doesn't really have to compete too much right now. They've lapped King in terms of panel-mount GPS and even nailed Avidyne to the wall on glass panels. After all, while the G-1000 is an all-garmin product, the Entegra always seems to come with Garmin radios. So they don't even need to buy that one out like they did Apollo. -cwk. I do have experience with Jeppesen support and it seems very good. I have a Trimble (remember them) TLN-2000 panel mount combo GPS/Loran. Think I bought it in 1994 and still can get data base cards from Jeppesen even though Trimble has gotten out of the general aviation market (liability perhaps?). I haven't gotten an replacement GPS yet because it would require from the ground up installation. None of the existing interfaces (antennas, autopilot, trays, etc) could be reused. Have Garmin 196 for mapping and non GPS instrument install for instrument flight. All that being said I don't think I could get a decent IFR certified GPS installed and interfaced to my autopilot (STEC 50) for less than 10K. Probably would be more. Howard C182P Howard --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004 |
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![]() "Howard Nelson" wrote in message ... I do have experience with Jeppesen support and it seems very good. I have a That's my point- The way Jeppesen sees it, they make (roughly) the same money selling you an update for a first-generation steam-powered GPS as they do a G-1000. Discontinuing support for a particular unit would in most cases cost more than it saves. But what happens if the box needs repair? Are there 3rd-party shops that can fix this stuff, or do you rely on the mfr. giving a crap? King I'd feel comfortable relying on but Garmin, nope. All that being said I don't think I could get a decent IFR certified GPS installed and interfaced to my autopilot (STEC 50) for less than 10K. Probably would be more. I wish I had an autopilot that needed interfacing to. Heck, I wish I had an autopilot period. In any case that adds significantly to install cost. One of the flight schools on my field has been spending about 6k each putting IFR GPSs in all their Warriors and Skyhawks over the past couple years. -cwk. |
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The KLN89 is fine so long as you don't actually use it for an approach.
When I did my instrument rating I was the only pilot in a large school to successfully load an approach. Not one of 14 Instructors had been able to do it. Garmin AT has kept the people who were at UPS - this has not been a cut & gut acquisition. I know people who were part of Apollo/UPS and they think it was a good deal for them. UPS did not care about them at all. The GX-50/60 is the best unit out there if you can find one. I'm sticking with mine until they eliminate the ILS equipment and demand that we all go to C146 equipment. |
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