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Old November 10th 04, 08:34 PM
Jim Burns
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Thanks, I'm going to check the service manual for ours tonight to see if it
mentions retreads. I ended up with Michelin tires, and like yours, the 8
plys were rated to 2550. My earlier post stating 2250 was slightly
dyslexic.

Jim


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Old November 11th 04, 05:22 AM
Louis L. Perley III
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"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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Thanks, I'm going to check the service manual for ours tonight to see if

it
mentions retreads. I ended up with Michelin tires, and like yours, the 8
plys were rated to 2550. My earlier post stating 2250 was slightly
dyslexic.

Jim


Any idea how to determine what the Gross Weight on the aircraft is? I
know that Piper made 4400, 4800, and 5200 pound models, and they aren't in
any specific serial number ranges as far as I can tell. It would appear that
it depended on what was ordered at the time, and I've not seen any list of
what the various differences were so that I could make some sort of
determination that way. I've been searching, but have not yet been able to
determine anywhere what the gross weight is on my airframe.

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Louis L. Perley III
N46000 - C152
N370 - PA-23-250


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Old November 11th 04, 04:59 PM
Jim Burns
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The gross weight should be in the identification and specs section or page
of the Flight Manual that is specific to your airplane. It should have the
serial number of your plane on this page. It should also be listed in your
W&B section and may be indicated in the charts as an upper weight limit
line. Double check that the charts match the gross weight listed in the
specs. On ours, there is also an AD that gives us a "Zero Fuel" weight
lower than gross, I believe it's 4400 lbs meaning that with empty tanks we
can only load it to 4400 lbs, then the rest has to be fuel up to 5200.

Jim


"Louis L. Perley III" wrote in message
...
"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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Thanks, I'm going to check the service manual for ours tonight to see if

it
mentions retreads. I ended up with Michelin tires, and like yours, the

8
plys were rated to 2550. My earlier post stating 2250 was slightly
dyslexic.

Jim


Any idea how to determine what the Gross Weight on the aircraft is? I
know that Piper made 4400, 4800, and 5200 pound models, and they aren't in
any specific serial number ranges as far as I can tell. It would appear

that
it depended on what was ordered at the time, and I've not seen any list of
what the various differences were so that I could make some sort of
determination that way. I've been searching, but have not yet been able to
determine anywhere what the gross weight is on my airframe.

--
Louis L. Perley III
N46000 - C152
N370 - PA-23-250




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Old November 11th 04, 07:03 PM
Jim Burns
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I double checked our flight manual and everything below is correct in our
case. The front page lists the N number and serial number then states "for
serial numbers 27-2505 and above at 5200 lb gross weight", then the weight
and balance section lists all the weights includeing empty weight and
usefull load which add up to 5200 lbs.

I also checked the service manual dated 1981 and it does not mention retread
tires and only lists 8 ply tires for the mains, however lists 4 or 6 plys
for the nose, but the nose is a 6 inch tire. Maybe our Service Manual isn't
new enough, I'll have to check with our A&P.

YMMV
Jim

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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The gross weight should be in the identification and specs section or page
of the Flight Manual that is specific to your airplane. It should have

the
serial number of your plane on this page. It should also be listed in

your
W&B section and may be indicated in the charts as an upper weight limit
line. Double check that the charts match the gross weight listed in the
specs. On ours, there is also an AD that gives us a "Zero Fuel" weight
lower than gross, I believe it's 4400 lbs meaning that with empty tanks we
can only load it to 4400 lbs, then the rest has to be fuel up to 5200.

Jim


"Louis L. Perley III" wrote in message
...
"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Thanks, I'm going to check the service manual for ours tonight to see

if
it
mentions retreads. I ended up with Michelin tires, and like yours,

the
8
plys were rated to 2550. My earlier post stating 2250 was slightly
dyslexic.

Jim


Any idea how to determine what the Gross Weight on the aircraft is?

I
know that Piper made 4400, 4800, and 5200 pound models, and they aren't

in
any specific serial number ranges as far as I can tell. It would appear

that
it depended on what was ordered at the time, and I've not seen any list

of
what the various differences were so that I could make some sort of
determination that way. I've been searching, but have not yet been able

to
determine anywhere what the gross weight is on my airframe.

--
Louis L. Perley III
N46000 - C152
N370 - PA-23-250




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Old November 11th 04, 08:11 PM
John Galban
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"Louis L. Perley III" wrote in message ...
I've been searching, but have not yet been able to
determine anywhere what the gross weight is on my airframe.



Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but doesn't your W&B documentation
list the gross weight? How else could you load it properly?

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)
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Old November 11th 04, 08:31 PM
Elwood Dowd
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I've been searching, but have not yet been able to
determine anywhere what the gross weight is on my airframe.



One of the documents required to be in the aircraft is the weight and
balance sheet. I have usually found it in the pilot's operating
handbook, which must have records pertaining specifically to your airplane.
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Old November 11th 04, 10:16 PM
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Elwood Dowd wrote:

I've been searching, but have not yet been able to
determine anywhere what the gross weight is on my airframe.


One of the documents required to be in the aircraft is the weight and
balance sheet. I have usually found it in the pilot's operating
handbook, which must have records pertaining specifically to your airplane.


As has been extensively discussed in another current thread, there's no requirement
that the W&B be in the aircraft, and older planes will not have a POH. In fact, newer
planes won't either -- they have AFMs instead.

George Patterson
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