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In a previous article, "Steven P. McNicoll" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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1. Saddam has weapons of mass destruction - LIE


Not a lie. It may have been wrong but it was definitely not a lie. The one
point before the war on which there was agreement was that Saddam had WMD.

Most of the intelligence source said he didn't. Bush's people decided to
believe the ONE source (who was a defector and then very suspect) who told
them what they wanted to beleive.


2. Saddam has ties to Al Queda - LIE


Not a lie, Saddams ties to Al Qaeda were demonstrated.

Thoroughly disproved by the 9/11 Commission.

3. Saddam is a threat to America - LIE


How so? Saddam with WMD is certainly a threat to America and it was agreed
that he had WMD.

He didn't have them, and if Bush's people hadn't cooked the books, we all
would have known that.

4. Saddam was attempting to buy Uranium from Niger - LIE


Not a lie, Saddam did attempt that.

Thoroughly disproved. The document cited in his State of the Union
address was known to be a lie before he cited it. It was even supposedly
signed by somebody who was no longer in the government position that he
supposedly was in.


5. Deposing Saddam will make America safer - LIE

Not a lie, the whole world is safer without Saddam.

Bull****. The US presence in Iraq is making thousands of new fanatical
terrorists every week, both in Iraq and outside. People whose anger was
directed towards their oppressor Saddam is now directed towards their
invaders, us. And Bush's calling it a "crusade" was sure to fanaticize a
lot of formerly moderate muslims.

6. The Iraqi people will greet American troops as liberators and there
will be no need for massive numbers of troops to secure the country
afterwards - WRONG


Many Iraqis did greet American troops as liberators.

Army war planners demanded 200,000 - 300,000 troops to make sure there
wasn't any looting and destruction of infastructure after the "end of
major combat operations". Rumsfeld overruled them and went in without
enough people, and the resulting chaos fueled the insurgency.

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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, "Steven P. McNicoll"
said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...

1. Saddam has weapons of mass destruction - LIE


Not a lie. It may have been wrong but it was definitely not a lie. The
one
point before the war on which there was agreement was that Saddam had WMD.

Most of the intelligence source said he didn't. Bush's people decided to
believe the ONE source (who was a defector and then very suspect) who told
them what they wanted to beleive.


Wrong. Every nation with an intelligence gathering capability said he had
WMD. The only nation that disputed it was Iraq.



2. Saddam has ties to Al Queda - LIE


Not a lie, Saddams ties to Al Qaeda were demonstrated.

Thoroughly disproved by the 9/11 Commission.


Confirmed by inspectors in Iraq.



3. Saddam is a threat to America - LIE


How so? Saddam with WMD is certainly a threat to America and it was
agreed
that he had WMD.

He didn't have them, and if Bush's people hadn't cooked the books, we all
would have known that.


He was believed to have had them and it has not been proven that he didn't
have them. There's no evidence that any books were cooked and no reason to
believe any were.




4. Saddam was attempting to buy Uranium from Niger - LIE


Not a lie, Saddam did attempt that.

Thoroughly disproved.


No, it was proven.



The document cited in his State of the Union
address was known to be a lie before he cited it. It was even supposedly
signed by somebody who was no longer in the government position that he
supposedly was in.


5. Deposing Saddam will make America safer - LIE

Not a lie, the whole world is safer without Saddam.

Bull****. The US presence in Iraq is making thousands of new fanatical
terrorists every week, both in Iraq and outside. People whose anger was
directed towards their oppressor Saddam is now directed towards their
invaders, us. And Bush's calling it a "crusade" was sure to fanaticize a
lot of formerly moderate muslims.


Nonsense. You're entitled to your own opinions but you're not entitled to
your own facts. The fact is you've bought the propaganda.

You're the one buying the propoganda, Stevie boy. Hook, line and sinker.

That's understandable since there seem to be very few working brain cells
left in you cranium.

You're not still pushing tin, are you?

mike regish

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Nonsense. You're entitled to your own opinions but you're not entitled to
your own facts. The fact is you've bought the propaganda.