AOPA credit card --- WARNING.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Mike V." wrote in message
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Let me try to explain this to you even though you are clearly too damn
stupid to understand: some people do not have enough money to get by, let
alone some extra cash to set aside for emergencies.

GET IT??

I get it. And there are people who are in poor financial situations
because they've made poor decisions. Do you get that?

So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down? There is a limit to everything, and
the credit card co's have crossed the line. Joe Public deserves the same
sort of protections the credit card co's have been given by congress to ****
the average consumer.

"Mike V." wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Mike V." wrote in message
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Let me try to explain this to you even though you are clearly too damn
stupid to understand: some people do not have enough money to get by,
let alone some extra cash to set aside for emergencies.

GET IT??

I get it. And there are people who are in poor financial situations
because they've made poor decisions. Do you get that?

So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

It absolutely is the issue. This is just another example of how this country
is ruled by faceless corporations instead of real people. Could you imagine
how much backlash small business owners would experience if they used the
same sort of strong arm tactics on their customers? They can't do it because
they do not have the money to lobby for protections the corporations are
routinely awarded by congress. Ever seen how little tax these large
corporations pay?.... a **** load less than I pay in my (small) business.

There has to be balance to be fair.

"Mike V." wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to
screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

It absolutely is the issue. This is just another example of how this
country
is ruled by faceless corporations instead of real people. Could you
imagine
how much backlash small business owners would experience if they used the
same sort of strong arm tactics on their customers? They can't do it
because
they do not have the money to lobby for protections the corporations are
routinely awarded by congress. Ever seen how little tax these large
corporations pay?.... a **** load less than I pay in my (small) business.

There has to be balance to be fair.


The balance is very easy to put into place. Either don't use credit cards
or pay the bill in full every month. I have yet to see one of your faceless
corporations force anybody to use one of their credit cards.

"Mike V." wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

It absolutely is the issue.

You're mistaken.



This is just another example of how this country is ruled by faceless
corporations instead of real people.

Wrong. This country is ruled by big government, not big corporations. No
corporation can require you to do anything or take your money or property or
liberty away from you. Government can.



Could you imagine how much backlash small business owners would experience
if they used the same sort of strong arm tactics on their customers?

What strong arm tactics?



They can't do it because they do not have the money to lobby for
protections the corporations are routinely awarded by congress.

So the problem is government, not corporations.



Ever seen how little tax these large corporations pay?.... a **** load
less than I pay in my (small) business.


So what? You both just pass them on to your customers. In the end all
taxes are paid by consumers.



There has to be balance to be fair.

There has to be a free market to be fair, nothing else.

Mike V. wrote:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.


It absolutely is the issue. This is just another example of how this country
is ruled by faceless corporations instead of real people. Could you imagine
how much backlash small business owners would experience if they used the
same sort of strong arm tactics on their customers? They can't do it because
they do not have the money to lobby for protections the corporations are
routinely awarded by congress. Ever seen how little tax these large
corporations pay?.... a **** load less than I pay in my (small) business.

What protections are credit card companies getting? Oh, you mean the
protection that they get by having a contract signed by YOU. Yes, the
government shouldn't let them have people sign contracts.

Matt

"Mike V." wrote in message news:B38qd.154941$HA.64123@attbi_s01...
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

It absolutely is the issue. This is just another example of how this country
is ruled by faceless corporations instead of real people. Could you imagine
how much backlash small business owners would experience if they used the
same sort of strong arm tactics on their customers? They can't do it because
they do not have the money to lobby for protections the corporations are
routinely awarded by congress. Ever seen how little tax these large
corporations pay?.... a **** load less than I pay in my (small) business.

There has to be balance to be fair.

Stupid people should be excused from having to pay the balance that they rack up?

Mike V. wrote:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Mike V." wrote in message
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Let me try to explain this to you even though you are clearly too damn
stupid to understand: some people do not have enough money to get by, let
alone some extra cash to set aside for emergencies.

GET IT??

I get it. And there are people who are in poor financial situations
because they've made poor decisions. Do you get that?


So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down? There is a limit to everything, and
the credit card co's have crossed the line. Joe Public deserves the same
sort of protections the credit card co's have been given by congress to ****
the average consumer.

You signed the agreement. If they are doing something outside the
agreement, then, yes, the government should step in. If they aren't,
then they aren't screwing you or anyone else. You screwed up by signing
and agreement before you read it. This is a really simple concept, I'm
surprised you find it hard to understand.

Matt

So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down? There is a limit to everything, and
the credit card co's have crossed the line. Joe Public deserves the same
sort of protections the credit card co's have been given by congress to
**** the average consumer.

Mike, you appear to be under the impression that the consumer is powerless
in the face of the big, bad credit card companies.

I'm here to tell you that you now have more power against them -- and
subsequently against the companies you used your charge card to purchase
items from -- than at any time in history. You literally don't have to pay
for ANYTHING on your bill, if you claim it to be fraudulently charged.
Your word to a clerk over the telephone is now good enough to get ANY charge
reversed, instantly -- and it's up to the store or service provider that
charged you to prove that it ISN'T a fraudulent charge.

The old system has literally been stood on its head, and there's a world of
sh*t coming down the pike for consumers -- who aren't even aware it's
coming -- because of it.

So, specifically, what new kind of protections are you looking for to use
against the credit card companies?
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"Mike V." wrote in message news:5c7qd.107089$5K2.93270@attbi_s03...
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Mike V." wrote in message
newsd1qd.675986$8_6.344569@attbi_s04...

Let me try to explain this to you even though you are clearly too damn
stupid to understand: some people do not have enough money to get by, let
alone some extra cash to set aside for emergencies.

GET IT??

I get it. And there are people who are in poor financial situations
because they've made poor decisions. Do you get that?

So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down? There is a limit to everything, and
the credit card co's have crossed the line. Joe Public deserves the same
sort of protections the credit card co's have been given by congress to ****
the average consumer.

So being stupid is an excuse to let others pay for your stupidity?

Bryan