AOPA credit card --- WARNING.

All.

mike regish

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Which were proven false?

"mike regish" wrote in message
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All.


Well, that's not correct. It's unlikely you're even aware of the reasons
given.

Jay Honeck wrote:
Our entertainment consist of watching TV, going to visit family

(within 20

miles), going to DFW airport and sitting at the park watching planes

take

off and land, going to the American Airlines Museum (free), Pates

Museum of

transportation (free), etc... We rarely go places that cost money...


You are not alone. Some of us are just farther along life's path.

When we first moved to Iowa in '97 to set up our business, we literally
spent everything we had to do it. We risked everything, and, of
course, it took months for our business (newspaper distribution) to
make any money -- plus we had a start-up business loan to pay off.

Needless to say, flying was occasional (at best), and entertainment
consisted of going to the public library with the kids, who were just 7
and 4 years old. We only ate out at the college-student-oriented
restaurants ($3 all-you-can-eat taco night -- whoopee!), and spent a
lot of time working.

It was a tough slog in the mud, but by being careful (and having no
life!) we paid off the start-up loan in a couple of years, avoided
credit card debt, drove old cars -- and by late '98 we were in a
position to buy our first airplane. (Which actually cost less than our
full-sized Ford van, by the way. Aircraft are NOT all that expensive.)

By 2002 we had "made it" to the point where we could look at trying
something fun -- like buying an old hotel and turning it into a dream
destination for pilots. We're making 1/3 of what we made in our last
business, but are having the time of our lives.

We've got a better plane now, but we still drive old cars, don't go out
a lot -- and we still have no credit card debt. In fact, the only
money we owe is on our home mortgage.

Bottom line: Fiscal responsibility and financial success *can* be had
-- but it takes discipline and hard work.

Yes, that is exactly the bottom line that a few here seem unwilling to
accept. It is easier to blame their problems on folks born with a
silver spoon in their mouth than to simply slog through the dark days
and get ahead of the debt curve. Unfortunately, our schools and often
our parents simply don't teach people good financial management skills.
And society in general certainly encourages financial recklessness and
people without the skills and will power to handle it can easily get in
trouble.

Matt

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"Mike V." wrote in message
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Let me try to explain this to you even though you are clearly too damn
stupid to understand: some people do not have enough money to get by, let
alone some extra cash to set aside for emergencies.

GET IT??

I get it. And there are people who are in poor financial situations
because they've made poor decisions. Do you get that?

So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down? There is a limit to everything, and
the credit card co's have crossed the line. Joe Public deserves the same
sort of protections the credit card co's have been given by congress to ****
the average consumer.

"Mike V." wrote in message
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"Mike V." wrote in message
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Let me try to explain this to you even though you are clearly too damn
stupid to understand: some people do not have enough money to get by,
let alone some extra cash to set aside for emergencies.

GET IT??

I get it. And there are people who are in poor financial situations
because they've made poor decisions. Do you get that?

So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

It absolutely is the issue. This is just another example of how this country
is ruled by faceless corporations instead of real people. Could you imagine
how much backlash small business owners would experience if they used the
same sort of strong arm tactics on their customers? They can't do it because
they do not have the money to lobby for protections the corporations are
routinely awarded by congress. Ever seen how little tax these large
corporations pay?.... a **** load less than I pay in my (small) business.

There has to be balance to be fair.

"Mike V." wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to
screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

It absolutely is the issue. This is just another example of how this
country
is ruled by faceless corporations instead of real people. Could you
imagine
how much backlash small business owners would experience if they used the
same sort of strong arm tactics on their customers? They can't do it
because
they do not have the money to lobby for protections the corporations are
routinely awarded by congress. Ever seen how little tax these large
corporations pay?.... a **** load less than I pay in my (small) business.

There has to be balance to be fair.


The balance is very easy to put into place. Either don't use credit cards
or pay the bill in full every month. I have yet to see one of your faceless
corporations force anybody to use one of their credit cards.

"Mike V." wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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So making poor decisions is an excuse for allowing corporations to screw
people over double when they are down?

That's not the issue.

It absolutely is the issue.

You're mistaken.



This is just another example of how this country is ruled by faceless
corporations instead of real people.

Wrong. This country is ruled by big government, not big corporations. No
corporation can require you to do anything or take your money or property or
liberty away from you. Government can.



Could you imagine how much backlash small business owners would experience
if they used the same sort of strong arm tactics on their customers?

What strong arm tactics?



They can't do it because they do not have the money to lobby for
protections the corporations are routinely awarded by congress.

So the problem is government, not corporations.



Ever seen how little tax these large corporations pay?.... a **** load
less than I pay in my (small) business.


So what? You both just pass them on to your customers. In the end all
taxes are paid by consumers.



There has to be balance to be fair.

There has to be a free market to be fair, nothing else.

Paul stated them. I really don't need to restate them, do I?

Osama who?

They don't still let you push tin, do they?

mike regish

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All.


Well, that's not correct. It's unlikely you're even aware of the reasons
given.

Paul Tomblin stated them. I really don't need to restate them for you, do I?

Osama who?

They don't still let you push tin, do they?

mike regish

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All.


Well, that's not correct. It's unlikely you're even aware of the reasons
given.