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Old January 4th 05, 07:23 PM
Robert M. Gary
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How often do guys like us fly to airports that sell Jet-A though? The
article that "Pilot" wrote up mentioned that most U.S. orders were for
the Cont. engine version. I guess in the E.U. jet-A is more common.
-robert

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Old January 4th 05, 10:49 PM
Juan Jimenez
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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How often do guys like us fly to airports that sell Jet-A though? The
article that "Pilot" wrote up mentioned that most U.S. orders were for
the Cont. engine version. I guess in the E.U. jet-A is more common.
-robert


Virtually every airport I fly to has Jet-A. All the towered airports in the
caribbean have it, and many non-towered have it as well. Besides, how far do
you have to go to find Jet-A? And considering the price difference, it sure
is worthwhile.



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Old January 5th 05, 12:34 AM
Frank Stutzman
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
How often do guys like us fly to airports that sell Jet-A though? The
article that "Pilot" wrote up mentioned that most U.S. orders were for
the Cont. engine version. I guess in the E.U. jet-A is more common.
-robert


Considering that the vast majority of the non-training helecopter fleet is
turbine, I would say that Jet-A is actually very common. Guys like us may
not notice much though as we don't use it.

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Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

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Old January 5th 05, 04:48 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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How often do guys like us fly to airports that sell Jet-A though?


A hell of a lot more than to those that sell 80/87. :~)

Of the 10 airports within 65 miles of my base, seven have Jet-A, and the
ones that don't have like a dozen or less aircraft based there, are
unattended. Not always, but usually. Those that don't have it, typically,
just a few miles down the road (okay..."just over there").

Of the 3968 FBO's nationwide, 3871 have 100LL, 2481 have Jet-A, 29 have
80/87, and 234 have Mogas.
http://www.airnav.com/fuel/report.html

The
article that "Pilot" wrote up mentioned that most U.S. orders were for
the Cont. engine version. I guess in the E.U. jet-A is more common.


More common and less expensive. When you pay for fuel what they do, it
really adds up.

I'm looking for something with all-weather capability, but it damn sure
isn't going to be a twin piston-popper. Been there, done that, got fed up
(Baron 58...nine months and 250 hours was enough).

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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


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Old January 5th 05, 04:57 PM
Ron Natalie
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Of the 3968 FBO's nationwide, 3871 have 100LL, 2481 have Jet-A, 29 have
80/87, and 234 have Mogas.
http://www.airnav.com/fuel/report.html

And I think that may still overstate the 80/87 availability.
It's been steadily becoming harder to get as you have to go further
and further away to get it. Our airport was the last holdout in the
area which would by a tanker car and then truck it in. However, the
"truck in" leg got progressively longer to make it unfeasible. It
was much more expensive than 100LL the last decade or so it was
available.

Those airport update surveys aren't updated very often or accurately.
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Old January 5th 05, 05:09 PM
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Ron Natalie wrote:
Matt Barrow wrote:


Of the 3968 FBO's nationwide, 3871 have 100LL, 2481 have Jet-A, 29 have
80/87, and 234 have Mogas.
http://www.airnav.com/fuel/report.html

And I think that may still overstate the 80/87 availability.
It's been steadily becoming harder to get as you have to go further
and further away to get it. Our airport was the last holdout in the
area which would by a tanker car and then truck it in. However, the
"truck in" leg got progressively longer to make it unfeasible. It
was much more expensive than 100LL the last decade or so it was
available.


Those airport update surveys aren't updated very often or accurately.


All production of 80/87 ended some time ago.

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Old January 5th 05, 05:21 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
Matt Barrow wrote:

Of the 3968 FBO's nationwide, 3871 have 100LL, 2481 have Jet-A, 29 have
80/87, and 234 have Mogas.
http://www.airnav.com/fuel/report.html

And I think that may still overstate the 80/87 availability.
It's been steadily becoming harder to get as you have to go further
and further away to get it. Our airport was the last holdout in the
area which would by a tanker car and then truck it in. However, the
"truck in" leg got progressively longer to make it unfeasible. It
was much more expensive than 100LL the last decade or so it was
available.

Those airport update surveys aren't updated very often or accurately.


The prices can be up to a year old or even longer, but I doubt that the mix
changes very much. If anything, I'd venture that more and more are carrying
Jet-A as the turbine fleet is proliferating.

Here's hoping that GAMI can get STC approval for it's PRISM system sometime
soon.


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


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Old January 5th 05, 06:25 PM
Ron Natalie
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Ron Natalie" wrote in message



The prices can be up to a year old or even longer, but I doubt that the mix
changes very much. If anything, I'd venture that more and more are carrying
Jet-A as the turbine fleet is proliferating.

The mix is changing, 80/87 has all but disappeared in the last 5 years.
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Old January 6th 05, 04:39 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Ron Natalie" wrote in message



The prices can be up to a year old or even longer, but I doubt that the

mix
changes very much. If anything, I'd venture that more and more are

carrying
Jet-A as the turbine fleet is proliferating.

The mix is changing, 80/87 has all but disappeared in the last 5 years.


Sorry...I was referring to the 100LL/Jet-A mix. In that vein, would you
agree that more places are carrying Jet-A? A few years ago it was (to my
recollection) only larger city airports that support airlines. Now, with the
bizjets and turboprops, it seems even backwater airports carry the stuff.
That, though, might be an artifact of he turbine powered crop dusters.
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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO


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Old January 5th 05, 07:42 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Of the 3968 FBO's nationwide, 3871 have 100LL, 2481 have Jet-A, 29 have
80/87, and 234 have Mogas.


I doubt that many of those actually have 80/87. It hasn't been made for some
time now.

George Patterson
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