Engine Preheater - any good?

"Jim Rosinski" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:

THEN DON'T BUY IT. Rather, why don't you buy some space heaters from
Wal-Mart and some ducted hoses and sell them for $50? Come on...why
don't you?

Because I don't want to.

No, it's sooooo much easier to **** & moan and throw stones.


Oh, the Rube Goldberg's of the world!!

Rube Goldberg's what?

The only rip-off is the prices for parts/equipment mandated by
the FAA standards (i.e., seat belts that cost ten times more than

for automobiles, even though they are the exact same thing.

So NOTHING in aviation outside of FAA mandates is a ripoff? You
might want to rethink, or rephrase, those words.

You might want to think of the word "voluntary".

:
What does that non-answer have to do with anything I said?

A BMW costs $60,000 and doesn't cost that much more to produce than a Honda
Accord: is that a rip-off?

A "rip-off" is something you can't so without or something involving theft,
not something you acquire voluntarily.


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Matt Barrow wrote:

THEN DON'T BUY IT. Rather, why don't you buy some space heaters
from
Wal-Mart and some ducted hoses and sell them for $50? Come
on...why
don't you?

Because I don't want to.

No, it's sooooo much easier to **** & moan and throw stones.

I'm neither ****ing nor moaning. For whatever reason I don't know, but
you seem to want to turn a civil discussion into a flame war. The
original poster asked for input on a pre-heater he was considering.
Unfortunately, no one in this forum had any experience with the
specific item he pointed us to. Next best thing is to analyze the
vendor's claims and come up with an analysis. Mine says the item is
probably a ripoff. Others can, and have, disagreed with that
conclusion. I have no problem with that.

What does that non-answer have to do with anything I said?

A BMW costs $60,000 and doesn't cost that much more to produce than a
Honda Accord: is that a rip-off?

For the moment taking your assertion (implying that profit margins on
BMWs are vastly greater than those on Accords) as fact, I would say yes
the BMW is a ripoff. But then again I'd claim that any item with a
markup due to "yuppie appeal factor" is a ripoff. Just MHO.

A "rip-off" is something you can't so without or something involving
theft, not something you acquire voluntarily.

After puzzling over this statement and finally getting it to make some
sense by changing "so" to "do", it says something remarkable. You think
that anyone who purchases anything voluntarily has by definition not
been ripped off. Interesting definition.

Jim Rosinski

"Jim Rosinski" wrote in message
oups.com...
Matt Barrow wrote:

THEN DON'T BUY IT. Rather, why don't you buy some space heaters
from
Wal-Mart and some ducted hoses and sell them for $50? Come
on...why
don't you?

Because I don't want to.

No, it's sooooo much easier to **** & moan and throw stones.

I'm neither ****ing nor moaning.

Um...yes, you are. You're ****ing that someone who makes a product that
isn't a rube goldberg contraption made in a garage is a rip-off.

For whatever reason I don't know, but
you seem to want to turn a civil discussion into a flame war.

Well, "civil" is a vague term; you called it a rip-off and cast numerous
aspersions.
In case you mis the point a "rip-off" is tantamount to THEFT.

The
original poster asked for input on a pre-heater he was considering.
Unfortunately, no one in this forum had any experience with the
specific item he pointed us to. Next best thing is to analyze the
vendor's claims and come up with an analysis. Mine says the item is
probably a ripoff. Others can, and have, disagreed with that
conclusion. I have no problem with that.
What does that non-answer have to do with anything I said?

A BMW costs $60,000 and doesn't cost that much more to produce than a
Honda Accord: is that a rip-off?

For the moment taking your assertion (implying that profit margins on
BMWs are vastly greater than those on Accords) as fact, I would say yes
the BMW is a ripoff.

So, are you saying that "profit margin" is a factor in whether an item is a
"rip-off" or not?

But then again I'd claim that any item with a
markup due to "yuppie appeal factor" is a ripoff. Just MHO.

Just an very ignorant and adolesent (not to mention presumtious and
self-effected) perspective.

A "rip-off" is something you can't so without or something involving
theft, not something you acquire voluntarily.

After puzzling over this statement and finally getting it to make some
sense by changing "so" to "do", it says something remarkable. You think
that anyone who purchases anything voluntarily has by definition not
been ripped off. Interesting definition.

Caveat emptor....otherwise know as being mature enough to make you own
decisions and live with them.Then, there's a whole industry wrapped around
"victimhood" and people just groan about it.

Grow up!