Challenger Crashe at TEB

Jon Kraus wrote:

It looks like the Challenger skidded off the runway and crashed into a
warehouse at TEB.

Yesterday, NPR news stated that the mayor is pushing for reducing the number of
flights at TEB and installing "foam crash barriers" at the ends of the runway.

No mention of the fact that the deceleration produced by barriers like that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in place.

George Patterson
He who would distinguish what is true from what is false must have an
adequate understanding of truth and falsehood.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Jon Kraus wrote:

It looks like the Challenger skidded off the runway and crashed into a
warehouse at TEB.

Yesterday, NPR news stated that the mayor is pushing for reducing the
number of
flights at TEB and installing "foam crash barriers" at the ends of the
runway.

No mention of the fact that the deceleration produced by barriers like
that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in place.

I suspect his point is not to protect the pax and crew as much as to protect
the people in the buildings and roads around the airport. That building the
Challenger crashed into happened to be empty, but during working hours that
one alone has more than 200 people in it.

Doesn't take away from the lack of imagination in thinking that foam will
solve any perceived problems with the airport, but might explain where he is
coming from.

George Patterson wrote:

No mention of the fact that the deceleration produced by barriers like that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in place.

Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. But if that plane would have hit a
school bus full of kids when crossing the road and/or that warehouse
would not have happened to be empty at that time, I bet the airport
would already be closed right now.

Stefdan

I wouldn't shoot so fast- TEB is a pretty major artery in the NYC area. It
handles probably more than half of the bizjet traffic into Manhattan and in
case it isn't obvious, the people who fly in those jets are, shall we say,
influential? This is not some little country strip supporting weekend Cub
flights. Besides, if they close TEB the traffic will just have to move to
somewhere else, and the NY/NJ Port Authority has enough trouble dealing with
the traffic at EWK, LGA, and JFK as it is.

"Stefan" wrote in message
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George Patterson wrote:

No mention of the fact that the deceleration produced by barriers like
that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in
place.

Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. But if that plane would have hit a
school bus full of kids when crossing the road and/or that warehouse
would not have happened to be empty at that time, I bet the airport
would already be closed right now.

Stefdan

"Stefan" wrote in message ...
George Patterson wrote:

No mention of the fact that the deceleration produced by barriers like that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in place.

Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. But if that plane would have hit a school bus full of kids when crossing the road
and/or that warehouse would not have happened to be empty at that time, I bet the airport would already be closed
right now.

Stefdan

I don't think so...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
...

Yesterday, NPR news stated that the mayor is pushing for reducing the
number of
flights at TEB and installing "foam crash barriers" at the ends of the
runway.

No mention of the fact that the deceleration produced by barriers like
that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in place.

Why not just pile up a bunch of barrels of gasoline? It'd cost a lot less,
stop the plane just as quick, and would be totally self-cleaning.

-cwk.

"George Patterson" wrote in message ...


Jon Kraus wrote:

It looks like the Challenger skidded off the runway and crashed into a
warehouse at TEB.

Yesterday, NPR news stated that the mayor is pushing for reducing the number of
flights at TEB and installing "foam crash barriers" at the ends of the runway.

No mention of the fact that the deceleration produced by barriers like that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in place.

George Patterson
He who would distinguish what is true from what is false must have an
adequate understanding of truth and falsehood.



Build some sort of ramp thing that would carry the plane up and over the road as it stops, like a runaway truck ramp
;-)

George Patterson wrote:

Jon Kraus wrote:

It looks like the Challenger skidded off the runway and crashed into a
warehouse at TEB.


Yesterday, NPR news stated that the mayor is pushing for reducing the number of
flights at TEB and installing "foam crash barriers" at the ends of the runway.

No mention of the fact that the deceleration produced by barriers like that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in place.

Yes, but more voters drive cars on the hiqhway going past TEB than fly
out of it. That is all that matters to politicians.


Matt

"George Patterson" wrote in message No mention of the fact that the
deceleration produced by barriers like that
would have killed everyone on board this aircraft had they been in place.

That's barriers, not barricades. Foam barriers are being installed at most
large airports at the ends of the runways. They are made from special cement
which crunches when landing gears run through it thus decelerating the
aircraft with minimum damage. It is an excellent idea for airports such as
TEB.

D.