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February 12th 05, 04:45 AM
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wrote in message oups.com... Jon A. wrote: And you're posting this during a discussion of the question whether or not an owner can change their own plugs. Horse - - - Cart Cart - - - Horse So that means that means that wheher the gaskets are annealed or reused without annealing is irrelevant? That the owner wouldn't benefit by knowing about using new or annealed gaskets? Come on. Dan Well, I have learned from elsewhere in this thread that NEW gaskets are DEFINITELY the way to go since there is debate as to whether the proper treatment of used gaskets is to include cold water quenching or ambient air cooling... Cheers! John Clonts Temple, Texas N7NZ 
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February 12th 05, 02:56 PM
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:45:53 -0600, "John Clonts"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Jon A. wrote: And you're posting this during a discussion of the question whether or not an owner can change their own plugs. Horse - - - Cart Cart - - - Horse So that means that means that wheher the gaskets are annealed or reused without annealing is irrelevant? That the owner wouldn't benefit by knowing about using new or annealed gaskets? Come on. Dan Well, I have learned from elsewhere in this thread that NEW gaskets are DEFINITELY the way to go since there is debate as to whether the proper treatment of used gaskets is to include cold water quenching or ambient air cooling... Cheers! John Clonts Temple, Texas N7NZ And you never know how many times they've been ann - - - , well, subjected to various types of torture and by whom! ;-)
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February 12th 05, 02:44 PM
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John Clonts wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Jon A. wrote: And you're posting this during a discussion of the question whether or not an owner can change their own plugs. Horse - - - Cart Cart - - - Horse So that means that means that wheher the gaskets are annealed or reused without annealing is irrelevant? That the owner wouldn't benefit by knowing about using new or annealed gaskets? Come on. Dan Well, I have learned from elsewhere in this thread that NEW gaskets are DEFINITELY the way to go since there is debate as to whether the proper treatment of used gaskets is to include cold water quenching or ambient air cooling... Debate aside, the fact is that annealing non-ferrous metals is different than ferrous metals. Heating and quenching is the way to go for non-ferrous metals. I have several loading manuals that show this technique for annealing brass cases (which is mostly copper). You stand them upright in a tray of water, heat them with a torch and then tip them over into the water. Search around on your own and you will find this to be true. Matt
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February 12th 05, 03:54 PM
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Of course, these days folks would rather argue ad nauseum about trivia,
rather than get two spark plug gaskets. Anneal one correctly (red heat, quench in water) and the other incorrectly (red heat and air cool). See which one comes out clean and soft, and which one comes out black and hard. Matt Whiting wrote: John Clonts wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Jon A. wrote: And you're posting this during a discussion of the question whether or not an owner can change their own plugs. Horse - - - Cart Cart - - - Horse So that means that means that wheher the gaskets are annealed or reused without annealing is irrelevant? That the owner wouldn't benefit by knowing about using new or annealed gaskets? Come on. Dan Well, I have learned from elsewhere in this thread that NEW gaskets are DEFINITELY the way to go since there is debate as to whether the proper treatment of used gaskets is to include cold water quenching or ambient air cooling... Debate aside, the fact is that annealing non-ferrous metals is different than ferrous metals. Heating and quenching is the way to go for non-ferrous metals. I have several loading manuals that show this technique for annealing brass cases (which is mostly copper). You stand them upright in a tray of water, heat them with a torch and then tip them over into the water. Search around on your own and you will find this to be true. Matt
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February 14th 05, 01:33 PM
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:44:06 -0500, Matt Whiting
wrote: John Clonts wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Jon A. wrote: And you're posting this during a discussion of the question whether or not an owner can change their own plugs. Horse - - - Cart Cart - - - Horse So that means that means that wheher the gaskets are annealed or reused without annealing is irrelevant? That the owner wouldn't benefit by knowing about using new or annealed gaskets? Come on. Dan Well, I have learned from elsewhere in this thread that NEW gaskets are DEFINITELY the way to go since there is debate as to whether the proper treatment of used gaskets is to include cold water quenching or ambient air cooling... Debate aside, the fact is that annealing non-ferrous metals is different than ferrous metals. Heating and quenching is the way to go for non-ferrous metals. I have several loading manuals that show this technique for annealing brass cases (which is mostly copper). You stand them upright in a tray of water, heat them with a torch and then tip them over into the water. Search around on your own and you will find this to be true. Matt Matt is right on that one. You stand rifle cases in a pan of water. The water keeps the bottom of the case at a lower temp so the bottom doesn't heat/soften. You heat the neck and shoulders of the case with a torch and then tip them over into the water. It softens the neck and shoulders without changing the hardness of the base (which has to be hard to contain the pressure). Chuck
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