US Airways - NEVER AGAIN !!!

Actually, in the long run it's the right thing to do. It creates
financial consequences for the airline. It ****es off the flight
crew, and as a result the airline has to either pay the flight crew
more for dealing with the fallout or accept less-qualified flight
crew, which will show up in the insurance rates before long.


Your logic escapes me. Airline travel has become the bus service in the air so
luxury is out and mass tansit is in now. That means more crowded skies and,
unfortunately, more delays. I think you will find flight crews are not willing
to put up with childish behavior and will simply remove people who can't behave
in a civilized manner. Bringing an attitude on the plane is not a winning
strategy anymore.
If you don't like airline travel then by all means find another way.

In article ,
(PS2727) wrote:

If you don't like airline travel then by all means find another way.

believe me, I'd love to convince some people to use the phone
or VTC to conduct meetings rather to always thinking the meetings
have to be face-to-face.

--
Bob Noel

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(PS2727) wrote:

If you don't like airline travel then by all means find another way.

believe me, I'd love to convince some people to use the phone
or VTC to conduct meetings rather to always thinking the meetings
have to be face-to-face.

--
Bob Noel

That's becoming the norm for many corporations as airlines continue to treat
their best customers, business travelers, like dog turds.

Bob Noel wrote
If you don't like airline travel then by all means find another way.

believe me, I'd love to convince some people to use the phone
or VTC to conduct meetings rather to always thinking the meetings
have to be face-to-face.

Interestingly, my company is moving over to almost exclusive reliance
on phone and VTC. It's cheaper than flying, there's no loss of
productivity (other than the meeting itself), and it doesn't **** off
the employees the way being shipped around the country by cut-rate
airlines does.

I haven't set foot on an airliner for any reason in over a year.

Michael

On 11 Jul 2003 02:43:12 GMT, PS2727 wrote:
Your logic escapes me. Airline travel has become the bus service in the air so
luxury is out and mass tansit is in now. That means more crowded skies and,
unfortunately, more delays.

If only airline travel was as convenient as mass transit.

Train: turn up at the station, buy a ticket, get on, go. No need to arrive
at the station more than 10 minutes early except at busy times. Tickets
can be bought at a 'vending machine' if you don't have anything special
keeping queues down. Trip from London to Edinburgh: 3 hrs 59 minutes. On
a weekend, only a small fee to upgrade to First Class. Even discount
tickets have reasonable flexibility. There is usually a train station
reasonably close to your destination. If you have to change trains,
the wait at the intermediate station is usually fairly brief. If you miss
a connection, generally there's not too much trouble getting the next one.

Plane: Obliged to turn up at least an hour before departure. Long queues.
You have to buy the ticket way in advance to get any kind of discount.
Lengthy security checks. Airline airports are almost always a fair distance
to where you actually want to go. Trip from London to Edinburgh + waiting
usually also at least 4 hours. No flexibility with a discount ticket at
all. Layovers are usually at least an hour if you have to change planes.

People complain about the trains, but I'd far rather go by train
than airline. Railway staff don't treat you like a terror suspect.

GA: Go whenever you want. Usually a GA aerodrome close to where you want
to go. Your luggage doesn't get lost. You might get delayed, but you'll
spend the time amongst other flyers, and can usually borrow a car or get
a lift somewhere outside whilst you wait for the weather to improve.
You don't have to be wedged between two other passengers, one of whom
is a screaming toddler.
Expensive, but worth every damned penny. GA gains a great deal of utility
when you live on a relatively small island.

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

Trains did not work out as people movers in North America... The continent
is too huge to get a person within walking distance of his destination, and
the political power of the auto companies in the early part of the twentieth
century spelled doom for expanding the rail network... With all the land
all now owned by someone it is not feasible short of nuclear winter, or
some such to run more rail beyond what little rail is left...
We do have bus service to most towns in the USA, but it is slow,
uncomfortable, and inconvenient...
The third issue, which most europeans who have not visited the USA do not
comprehend, is that the North American continent is vast... Germany would
barely make one state in the USA, especially west of the Mississippi... We
have counties bigger than some countries in europe...
Denny

"Dylan Smith" wrote in Train: turn up at the
station, buy a ticket, get on, go. No need to arrive
at the station more than 10 minutes early except at busy times.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:54:45 -0400, Dennis O'Connor
wrote:
comprehend, is that the North American continent is vast... Germany would
barely make one state in the USA

I'm acutely aware of the size of the USA, I flew it coast to coast in
an 85-horsepower airplane!

On distances under 500 miles, I could beat the airlines in the same
85-horsepower airplane, too... (factors: minimal waiting around at
airports, being able to go to an airport very close to my destination)

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"