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Old July 30th 03, 01:30 AM
H. Adam Stevens
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"john" wrote in message
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had a prop governor drive failure in a PA32 (T-tail Lance) after T/O
from Port St. Joe FL, a 4230 x 65 grass strip. Took off from 18 & was
climbing through 600' agl on downwind when what I thought was rain
began to spray on the windshield. Trouble was, there wasn't a cloud in
the sky. As I was 3/4 of the way on downwind the little idler shaft
driving the governor spit out behind the flywheel & it puked 10-11 qt
of oil out the front. The oil actually rained inside the cockpit
through the overhead fresh air vents. Abeam the numbers 36, I shut the
engine down, got the wheels out (got lucky & saved the bearings).
With the luxury of a 4000+ rwy, I was able to put it into a slip so I
could see out the left side window & get it on the ground (killed a
lot of grass from the oil). The engine was overhauled 400 hrs earlier
& it seemed that they didn't safety wire the crankcase plug which
retained the little prop governor driveshaft at the front of the
engine. Having flown the Lance in a lot of IMC, night, over mountains,
out to the Bahamas, etc, I kinda shake when I think of other times it
could have let go!

I have instructed "the impossible turn" back to the rwy in my 172. As
others have said here, 60 deg bank worked best for me. The teardrop
turn involves a total of 270deg of heading change. In standard
conditions, 400' - 450' agl was a comfortable minimum altitude. I
certainly don't advocate teaching this emergency maneuver as a part of
primary training due to the vagaries of reaction time, density
altitude. etc; but its a fun exercise if approached carefully & only
with someone who has had spin training & knows what rudder pedals are
for.

john


Go up a few thousand feet and practice where there's some room.

A few years back I had the delightful opportunity to attend a reunion of B24
pilots from the Ploesti raid.
IIRC they were the Crusaders, the 392nd bomb group.
I shook the hand of a pilot who "dead sticked" a B24.

H.
N502TB



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Old July 30th 03, 06:07 AM
Ditch
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I shook the hand of a pilot who "dead sticked" a B24.

Pretty neat dead sticking that thing.
The coolest dead stick landing (IMHO) occured on April 4, 1963 when Stu
Harrison dead-sticked an F-8 Crusader on to a carrier.


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*
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Old July 30th 03, 04:45 PM
Dennis O'Connor
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That is one set of solid blue steel, cajones!

Denny

"Ditch" wrote in message
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I shook the hand of a pilot who "dead sticked" a B24.


Pretty neat dead sticking that thing.
The coolest dead stick landing (IMHO) occured on April 4, 1963 when Stu
Harrison dead-sticked an F-8 Crusader on to a carrier.


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or

North
American*



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Old July 30th 03, 06:05 PM
Big John
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Ditch

Can you give us the story please.

When I was seconded to Navy, loss of engine in SE bird, you punched.

If he lost just at touch down, another story. No bolter ability and
hand on the ejection system if he didn't get at least the #4 wire.

Big John


On 30 Jul 2003 05:07:11 GMT, ost (Ditch) wrote:

I shook the hand of a pilot who "dead sticked" a B24.


Pretty neat dead sticking that thing.
The coolest dead stick landing (IMHO) occured on April 4, 1963 when Stu
Harrison dead-sticked an F-8 Crusader on to a carrier.


-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*


 




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