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Old August 2nd 03, 05:32 PM
Martin Hotze
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 16:27:28 GMT, Sydney Hoeltzli wrote:

The commercial license would change the issues if you are flying
others, but I don't think it's relevant if the question is you
traveling on business.


hm. And if he goes for the commercial to have all the possible problems out
of the way (or because FAA demands a CPL for this situation), can he then
deduct the expenses for the training?

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Old August 2nd 03, 06:03 PM
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Martin Hotze wrote:

hm. And if he goes for the commercial to have all the possible problems out
of the way (or because FAA demands a CPL for this situation), can he then
deduct the expenses for the training?


No. The education is not required for the job.

George Patterson
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Old August 2nd 03, 06:28 PM
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 13:03:24 -0400, G.R. Patterson III wrote:



Martin Hotze wrote:

hm. And if he goes for the commercial to have all the possible problems out
of the way (or because FAA demands a CPL for this situation), can he then
deduct the expenses for the training?


No. The education is not required for the job.



hm, my cell phone is not really a requirement for the job, but it helps
doing it - I can deduct it. So, reaching clients easier, quicker, .... also
helps - maybe this qualifies for deducting, too.

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Old August 2nd 03, 06:53 PM
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Your cell phone is not education or training. You can deduct education and
training that relate to your current job but not for a new job. So training
for the instrument rating would be deductible for a pilot who uses an
airplane for business.travel. Training for a commercial certificate would
not be deductible since that is training for a different occupation. If
someone is a commercial pilot, then training for the ATP would be
deductible.

Mike
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 13:03:24 -0400, G.R. Patterson III wrote:



Martin Hotze wrote:

hm. And if he goes for the commercial to have all the possible problems

out
of the way (or because FAA demands a CPL for this situation), can he

then
deduct the expenses for the training?


No. The education is not required for the job.



hm, my cell phone is not really a requirement for the job, but it helps
doing it - I can deduct it. So, reaching clients easier, quicker, ....

also
helps - maybe this qualifies for deducting, too.

#m

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Old August 2nd 03, 09:28 PM
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Mike Rapoport wrote:

Your cell phone is not education or training. You can deduct education and
training that relate to your current job but not for a new job. So training
for the instrument rating would be deductible for a pilot who uses an
airplane for business.travel.


I deducted all my training because I'm a controller. Wrote off my
handheld GPS too, although I just buried that in the "training" part.
What a country.

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Old August 3rd 03, 12:26 AM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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I deducted all my training because I'm a controller. Wrote off my
handheld GPS too, although I just buried that in the "training" part.
What a country.


As long as you don't get audited, you can deduct whatever you like.

That doesn't mean it's legal though.

Pete


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Old August 3rd 03, 10:56 AM
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hm, my cell phone is not really a requirement for the job, but it helps
doing it - I can deduct it. So, reaching clients easier, quicker, .... also
helps - maybe this qualifies for deducting, too.


You can deduct the cost of a cell phone used on business (if it isn't
your only phone!). But you can't deduct the cost of a class that
trains you on how to use your cell phone.

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Old August 3rd 03, 10:54 AM
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hm. And if he goes for the commercial to have all the possible problems out
of the way (or because FAA demands a CPL for this situation), can he then
deduct the expenses for the training?


No. The education is not required for the job.


The general rule on education is that you can't deduct the expenses of
preparing for a better-paying job, or even for a different job, but
only if the training is required for you to hold your present job. One
of those nutty rules that come from splitting hairs.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old August 4th 03, 12:05 AM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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hm. And if he goes for the commercial to have all the possible problems

out
of the way (or because FAA demands a CPL for this situation), can he

then
deduct the expenses for the training?


No. The education is not required for the job.


The general rule on education is that you can't deduct the expenses of
preparing for a better-paying job, or even for a different job, but
only if the training is required for you to hold your present job. One
of those nutty rules that come from splitting hairs.


Because when they let you train for a _different_ job, they wind up with a
lot of "professional students" who just, somehow, never manage to get into
the new field.



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Old August 2nd 03, 09:25 PM
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 16:27:28 GMT, Sydney Hoeltzli wrote:


The commercial license would change the issues if you are flying
others, but I don't think it's relevant if the question is you
traveling on business.


You better have commercial insurance on the plane too.

 




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