dropped in D

the middle of Mc Entire class D airspace, Shaw approach gave me "radar
services terminated, squawk VFR, for further flight following suggest
you contact Columbia approach on 133.4". Hmmmm.... Doesn't this mean
that the instant after he terminated me, that I was not in two-way
communication with the ATC facility (and unintentionally in violation

Most likely he had already given a call to the class D
tower and coordinated your transition as he would with IFR traffic.

of 91.129(c)(1))? If so, what action should I have taken? Honestly,

He didn't say he won't accept any further radio calls from you, did he?
Did he say "freq change approved"? Anyway, the action is quite obvious -
you should have called him again with a request for clarification,
because you didn't fully understand his intentions
(smth like "please confirm we do not need to call the ... tower").
"When in doubt, ask"

(Vassilii Khachaturov) wrote in message . com...
the middle of Mc Entire class D airspace, Shaw approach gave me "radar
services terminated, squawk VFR, for further flight following suggest
you contact Columbia approach on 133.4". Hmmmm.... Doesn't this mean
that the instant after he terminated me, that I was not in two-way
communication with the ATC facility (and unintentionally in violation

Most likely he had already given a call to the class D
tower and coordinated your transition as he would with IFR traffic.

Perhaps, but I'm not sure how that impacts my requirement to
have/maintain two way communication.

of 91.129(c)(1))? If so, what action should I have taken? Honestly,

He didn't say he won't accept any further radio calls from you, did he?

The Shaw approach controller didn't say that, but did suggest that I
contact Columbia approach and obviously Shaw wouldn't be able to
contact me as soon as I started trying to contact Columbia approach.

Did he say "freq change approved"? Anyway, the action is quite obvious -
you should have called him again with a request for clarification,
because you didn't fully understand his intentions
(smth like "please confirm we do not need to call the ... tower").
"When in doubt, ask"

The Shaw approach controller's instruction was clear and what I did
was to take his suggestion and contact the Columbia approach
controller. But I agree that I should have asked for clarification.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Arden

"Arden Prinz" wrote in message
m...

Perhaps, but I'm not sure how that impacts my requirement to
have/maintain two way communication.


You were relieved of the requirements of FAR 91.129(c)(1) in accordance with
FAR 91.129(a).


§ 91.129 Operations in Class D airspace.

(a) General. Unless otherwise authorized or required by the ATC facility
having jurisdiction over the Class D airspace area, each person operating an
aircraft in Class D airspace must comply with the applicable provisions of
this section. In addition, each person must comply with §§ 91.126 and
91.127. For the purpose of this section, the primary airport is the airport
for which the Class D airspace area is designated. A satellite airport is
any other airport within the Class D airspace area.

"Vassilii Khachaturov" wrote in message
om...

Most likely he had already given a call to the class D
tower and coordinated your transition as he would with IFR traffic.


Remember, this is not an arrival, but a through flight. Would it be likely
for through IFR traffic to be that low that the controller would normally
provide such coordination for a through IFR flight. I'm thinking that would
be quite unusual.

"When in doubt, ask"

Agree 100%.


--

Bob
PP-ASEL-IA, A/IGI

"Robert Henry" wrote in message
news:bihYa.26631$5f.4102@lakeread05...

Remember, this is not an arrival, but a through flight. Would it be
likely for through IFR traffic to be that low that the controller would
normally provide such coordination for a through IFR flight. I'm
thinking that would be quite unusual.


The lowest practical enroute IFR altitude tends to be the MIA/MVA plus 1000
feet rounded up to the next cardinal altitude. That tends to be more than
2500 AGL and thus above typical Class D airspace.