Drunk America West pilots cannot be prosecuted

Roger Tracy wrote:
Sounds like she left the door open to the states to screw with us
private types.

"news" wrote in message
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Judge: State cannot prosecute pilots accused of drunkenness
By The Associated Press

But she noted her decision was a ''narrow holding'' based on the
circumstances of the pilots' case and did not apply to anything
besides regularly scheduled commercial flights.






A state judge is powerless to suspend, or revoke a pilots license. Only
the FAA can do this. If she thinks she can she is sadly mistaken, and
the Feds will not let some power hungry state judge undermind their
authority. She is dreaming.

kevin wrote in message news:gn8Ya.79676$Ho3.11153@sccrnsc03...

A state judge is powerless to suspend, or revoke a pilots license. Only
the FAA can do this. If she thinks she can she is sadly mistaken, and
the Feds will not let some power hungry state judge undermind their
authority. She is dreaming.

The FAA has a good record of allowing state and local governments to
undermine their authority.

Several years ago, Las Cruces, NM enacted city ordinances about the
use of radios and traffic patterns at the (non-towered) local airport.
You could get a ticket for not using the radio and not flying the
traffic pattern like the airport manager wanted you to. The FAA
refused to get involved. Fortunately, an influential local pilot
convinced the city council to repeal the ordinance after a year or so.

Also a few years ago, the city of Mesa, AZ had an ordinance that
mandated all aircraft over the city maintain 1000 AGL or more. They
actually had city police helicopters chasing down airplanes and giving
out tickets. The FAA again showed zero interest and chose not to
challenge the ordinance.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

John Galban wrote:
kevin wrote in message news:gn8Ya.79676$Ho3.11153@sccrnsc03...

A state judge is powerless to suspend, or revoke a pilots license. Only
the FAA can do this. If she thinks she can she is sadly mistaken, and
the Feds will not let some power hungry state judge undermind their
authority. She is dreaming.


The FAA has a good record of allowing state and local governments to
undermine their authority.

Several years ago, Las Cruces, NM enacted city ordinances about the
use of radios and traffic patterns at the (non-towered) local airport.
You could get a ticket for not using the radio and not flying the
traffic pattern like the airport manager wanted you to. The FAA
refused to get involved. Fortunately, an influential local pilot
convinced the city council to repeal the ordinance after a year or so.

Also a few years ago, the city of Mesa, AZ had an ordinance that
mandated all aircraft over the city maintain 1000 AGL or more. They
actually had city police helicopters chasing down airplanes and giving
out tickets. The FAA again showed zero interest and chose not to
challenge the ordinance.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)


That does not sound good. I did not think local authorities , or state
police had the authority to even ask to see your pilots licence .

kevin wrote in message That does not sound good. I did not think local
authorities , or state police had the authority to even ask to see your
pilots licence .

In the US, you are required to show your airman certificate to ANY law
enforcement officer who asks. You don't have to surrender it, but you must
show it. Additionally, now you must accompany your airman certificate with
another government issued photo identification.

D.

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 22:18:51 GMT, kevin wrote:

That does not sound good. I did not think local authorities , or state
police had the authority to even ask to see your pilots licence .

I was told that they do. I seem to recall such questions arising on
the Private ASEL written test.

Rob

kevin wrote in news:f9fYa.55301$cF.19245@rwcrnsc53:

That does not sound good. I did not think local authorities , or state
police had the authority to even ask to see your pilots licence .

14 CFR 61.3 (L)(3)

(I used capital letter "L" to avoid confusion with the number "1")

--
John Godwin
Silicon Rallye Inc.

"John Godwin" wrote in message
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kevin wrote in news:f9fYa.55301$cF.19245@rwcrnsc53:

That does not sound good. I did not think local authorities , or state
police had the authority to even ask to see your pilots licence .

14 CFR 61.3 (L)(3)

(I used capital letter "L" to avoid confusion with the number "1")

In addition, as long as there is no Federal primacy issue, the State can
prosecute.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in :


"John Godwin" wrote in message
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kevin wrote in news:f9fYa.55301$cF.19245@rwcrnsc53:

That does not sound good. I did not think local authorities , or state
police had the authority to even ask to see your pilots licence .

14 CFR 61.3 (L)(3)

(I used capital letter "L" to avoid confusion with the number "1")

In addition, as long as there is no Federal primacy issue, the State can
prosecute.


Rico!

bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in
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"John Godwin" wrote in message
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kevin wrote in news:f9fYa.55301$cF.19245@rwcrnsc53:

That does not sound good. I did not think local authorities , or
state
police had the authority to even ask to see your pilots licence .

14 CFR 61.3 (L)(3)

(I used capital letter "L" to avoid confusion with the number "1")

In addition, as long as there is no Federal primacy issue, the State can
prosecute.


Rico!

RIVO is a Federal statute, sill poultry rodent.

Bertie

They are talking about RICO for the Democrats who left Austin and went
to New Mexico to stop redistricting in TX.

Hope they file.

Big John


On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 04:55:42 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

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Rico!

bertie