Runway demolition at Meigs continues

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 14:25:36 -0500, Big John wrote:

Martin

Your right. Just tell it to the acres of American dead buried in
France.

Heck, they are dead. Go yourself and speak with them. Or speak with others
also fighting agains facism and not beeing American and died. You might be
surprised, but there have also been non-US-people opposing and fighting
(and dieing).

It's obvious that you are too young to have experienced the debacle in
France during WWII and the help (Marshall Plan) that the US gave to
help recover.

And you mean for how long someone should say thank you (you? or whom?) for
this? Another 50 years, 100, 500 years? Forever?

As I said befo I was born 30 years after the war _ended_. I do respect
what they did. But I won't put it into account today for rating a nation.
It's been too long ago.

Big John

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Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity.


Good point. No thank you's needed, but to learn the lessons is the value of
remembering the dead.
VL

On 09 Aug 2003 16:27:36 GMT, MLenoch wrote:

Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity.


Good point.

:-))

No thank you's needed,

fine.

but to learn the lessons is the value of
remembering the dead.

I can only speak for myself: I've learned the lesson.

VL

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Bombing for peace is like ****ing for virginity.


Good point. No thank you's needed, but to learn the lessons is the value
of
remembering the dead.

And what lesson was derived from the B-17's and B-29's in 1943-45?

And what lesson was derived from the B-17's and B-29's in 1943-45?




If you really have to know.......(just from the B-17s), my parents looked up to
the skies and saw liberation as they flew onto their targets. Someone was
willing to sacrifice their life to liberate my parents. No need to read too
much into that.
VL

And what lesson was derived from the B-17's and B-29's in 1943-45?

That air power can be truly decisive in war?

That "strategic precision bombing" wasn't yet possible using the Norden
bomb-sight and "dumb" bombs?

That many brave boys died over Europe so that you and I might be free to
write this today?
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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And what lesson was derived from the B-17's and B-29's in 1943-45?

That air power can be truly decisive in war?

That "strategic precision bombing" wasn't yet possible using the Norden
bomb-sight and "dumb" bombs?

That many brave boys died over Europe so that you and I might be free to
write this today?

So "bombing for peace" is NOT like "****ing for virginity"?

So "bombing for peace" is NOT like "****ing for virginity"?

Depends on the circumstances, I guess.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

No. If an enemy believes he wants to start a war in order to change his
situation, peace can only be achieved by convincing the enemy that 'the
grass won't be greener on the other side.' There are two ways to do this.
One is to convince him through diplomatic discussions, and form a treaty
or roundtable with him to discuss the issues that come up and work them
out.

The other way is to scare the hell out of him by showing him that if he
decides to fight he is going to lose.

Or I guess you can go to peace rallies and have hunger strikes in the
name of peace, and hand over your land, your rights, and your freedom by
default.

Your analogy sounds cute, but it's really off the mark.


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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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And what lesson was derived from the B-17's and B-29's in 1943-45?

That air power can be truly decisive in war?

That "strategic precision bombing" wasn't yet possible using the
Norden bomb-sight and "dumb" bombs?

That many brave boys died over Europe so that you and I might be free
to write this today?

So "bombing for peace" is NOT like "****ing for virginity"?

On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 21:56:59 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

That many brave boys died over Europe so that you and I might be free to
write this today?

Yes ... and today we can discuss the use of Napalm-like bombs in Iraq. Some
military guy said somethink like "a tough enemy ...blabla..." ... well,
they haven't had to fight against an airforce ... well, really tough ...
sure needs Napalm ...

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