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![]() "G.R. Patterson III" wrote: Peter Gottlieb wrote: It's almost better to just let it run its course and get so horrifically bad faster, so it affects more of the public sooner, and some brave leader stands up and asks why we are hurting ourselves like this. That strategy didn't work very well for the "war on drugs" insanity. George Patterson Brute force has an elegance all its own. I think they've given up on the drug war thing as a losing battle as appears to be chronic alcoholism and so the new culprit i which to go to war is .... tobacco products. Now before any nasties drift in from smokers [ciggs, pipes [*albeit 'sans' the rubber band and tin foil with the pin holes on the bowl thing...;-)...] or cigars] , I'm still a smoker as carried over from my former military days many moons ago [no lectures please!] but our governor is going literally ballistic about the thing. An ex-smoker himself [the worst kind! Their standard motto: "I did it so you MUST do it!"...] and notwithstanding his ongoing jihad of sorts with the Native American sovereign nation and internet tobacco product vendors [the gov wants his cut!], he pulled a sort of analogous Mayor Daley II King of the Universe move and issued an Executive Order forbidding national motor carriers [UPS, FedEx, DHL, etc.] from delivering tobacco products within the state of NY at the risk of a $5,000 fine per occurrence although his authority does NOT extend to the federal post office. So too, a law was passed just weeks ago that forbids smoking in any NY bar --or-- restaurant whether they have separate smoker rooms or facilities or not! Whew! Suddenly, the smoker [including pipes and cigars] folks are akin to social pariahs, crack-heads and heroin addicts on a par with Charlie Manson and Osama bin Laden! I've never seen anything like it YET the gov' is literally gagging on his "Well, I'm greatly concerned about 13 year old Johnny and Janey ordering and using tobacco products" while he concurrently desires big time that tobacco tax and surcharge [upon surcharge upon surcharge] revenue! Who is kidding who...or is that 'whom'.... Doc Tony |
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"Dr. Anthony J. Lomenzo" writes:
I think they've given up on the drug war thing as a losing battle If "they" give up on the drug war, it's just because they have new jobs. The drug war was a way to keep a lot of people employed and in power. The "war on terrorism" should be a decent substitute for many. I think it'll be a lot easier for power mongers to justify their actions using the "war on terrorism" than the "war on drugs." --kyler |
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![]() the new culprit i which to go to war is .... tobacco products. In my view it's a little different, as my issue with smoking is that it is smelly, obnoxious, filthy, and grossly inconsiderate., not only to those around the smoker, but to those that will occupy the same space in the future (long in the future if it's indoor). It has a big adverse aesthetic impact. I would be pleased if smoking was banned for those reasons alone. However, if people want to chew tobacco, or take it intravenously, I don't care. However, we are bandying about this health thing like a mantra - another example of society protecting us from ourselves, which makes me angry. If I want to put MYSELF in danger, I should be able to. In fact, if I want to harm myself, I should be able to. I should be able to choose my own risk vs. benefit relationship and live with the consequences. Seat belt laws are another example, and the fact that society pays for health care costs of those that choose "wrong" does also enter into this. I could go on for many paragraphs (but won't). I have a lot of respect for the FAA regs inasmuch as they respect the idea that pilots should be able to make their own (informed) risk vs. benefit decisions on their own behalf. The rules are stricter as pilots make these decisions on the behalf of others, as they should be. But from a safety point of view, pilots have an enormous amount of discretion (and responsibility). This security thing turns everything upside down. It takes advantage of the fact that people are ill-informed, and don't really care about the consequences of these decisions, to advance the political agenda of those in power. (have I said anything new here? ![]() effective thing terrorists could do now is throw shadows. It will shut us down in a week. Jose (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address) |
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