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Old August 18th 03, 08:49 PM
C J Campbell
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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| "C J Campbell" wrote in message
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| My personal feelings about the matter is that any private organization
| should be able to discriminate against any group that it wishes for any
| reason.
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| I agree with you there. However:
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| * The BSA should not enjoy preferential treatment or be granted any
sort
| of government support. As a private organization, they should be
| self-sufficient if they wish to discriminate.
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| * As a former scout myself, I look forward to a day when in good
| conscience allow my own son to participate in the BSA.

You were able to participate in good conscience when you were younger, but
the BSA's policies have not changed. Instead of trying to force your views
on the Boy Scouts, why not help found another organization that espouses
what you believe?


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Old August 19th 03, 12:20 AM
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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You were able to participate in good conscience when you were younger


Out of pure ignorance, I assure you.

but the BSA's policies have not changed.


Sorry? You said earlier that the BSA doesn't want gays because they are
concerned that pedophiles would be a problem. However, when I was in the
Scouts, no one ever talked about pedophiles. It just wasn't anything anyone
worried about.

If the BSA's policies have not changed, they sure were nearly as concerned
about following them to the letter when I was a Scout as they are now.

Instead of trying to force your views on the Boy Scouts


What makes you think I'm trying to force my views on the Boy Scouts? Do you
understand the difference in meaning between the word "force" and the word
"persuade"?

why not help found another organization that espouses what you believe?


Even if I had the time and motivation to do so, I would never live to see a
new organization achieve what the BSA has achieved in terms of public
recognizance and acceptance. On the other hand, I genuinely believe that
the BSA *will* eventually modify their policies. The anti-gay attitude, in
the BSA and in society in general, will be a VERY long time before it goes
away 100%. Heck, we're still trying to get rid of racism.

But that attitude WILL eventually go away, and while there will be
stragglers for a long time, society in general (and, I believe, the Boy
Scouts) will no longer be anti-gay sooner rather than later. I feel it's a
lot more productive to try to help an existing organization come into the
modern era than to reinvent the wheel. Force them? No, not at all. But
education and persuasion goes a long way.

Pete


 




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