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"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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Big John wrote:

I refuse to support United Way and any other organization who
discriminates against the BSA.

But organizations that discriminate against children are ok?

Margy

"As a licensed woman pilot (current or not), you are invited to become a
part of our legacy as the first and only international organization of women
pilots."

How does one explain the above discrimination by the 99s.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
.com...
"As a licensed woman pilot (current or not), you are invited to become a
part of our legacy as the first and only international organization of
women
pilots."

How does one explain the above discrimination by the 99s.

This has already been pointed out, but I guess you went to the bathroom or
something and missed it.

There's a difference between discrimination for the sake of discrimination
(e.g. BSA discriminating against gays) and discrimination inherent in the
organization (e.g. 99's). The 99's is *specifically* for the benefit of
women pilots, and as such it makes sense for them to exclude men. The BSA
is not *specifically* for the benefit of heterosexual men, and as such it
makes no sense for them to exclude homosexuals.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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| "Dave Stadt" wrote in message
| .com...
| "As a licensed woman pilot (current or not), you are invited to become a
| part of our legacy as the first and only international organization of
| women
| pilots."
|
| How does one explain the above discrimination by the 99s.
|
| This has already been pointed out, but I guess you went to the bathroom or
| something and missed it.
|
| There's a difference between discrimination for the sake of discrimination
| (e.g. BSA discriminating against gays) and discrimination inherent in the
| organization (e.g. 99's). The 99's is *specifically* for the benefit of
| women pilots, and as such it makes sense for them to exclude men. The BSA
| is not *specifically* for the benefit of heterosexual men,

Well, actually, it is.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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| [...] The BSA is not *specifically* for the benefit of heterosexual men,

Well, actually, it is.

Well, actually, no it's not. Nothing in the original charter says anything
about sexual preference. Furthermore, the raison d'etre for the BSA is to
teach boys about leadership, civic duties, outdoorsmanship, and the like.

The 99's exist specifically to provide an organization for female pilots.
That's the charter. Just as the BSA is for *boys* and as such do not allow
girls to participate.

It's not called the "Heterosexual Scouts of America". The discrimination
the 99's engage in is not the same. For that matter, the completely
legitimate discrimination that the BSA engages in when they exclude girls is
not the same as the absurd discrimination that they engage in when they
exclude gays.

Pete

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:36:34 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

Furthermore, the raison d'etre for the BSA is to
teach boys about leadership, civic duties, outdoorsmanship, and the like.

The raison d'etre of the BSA, at its very core, is to promote the
Scout Oath and Law. Everything they do is in service of *that*, *not*
the reverse.

Rob

Dave Stadt wrote:

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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Big John wrote:

I refuse to support United Way and any other organization who
discriminates against the BSA.

But organizations that discriminate against children are ok?

Margy

"As a licensed woman pilot (current or not), you are invited to become a
part of our legacy as the first and only international organization of women
pilots."

How does one explain the above discrimination by the 99s.

Men are not excluded from the 99s. I'm sure if you want to pony up the
membership fee they would be glad to take it and welcome you to their meetings.
At school I had an aviation club and a "women in aviation" club. I did this
because at the first meeting I knew my two quiet little girls would not stay
with my loud boys. I didn't say the boys couldn't join the women in aviation
club and if they wanted to come they could.

Margy

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message ...


Men are not excluded from the 99s. I'm sure if you want to pony up the
membership fee they would be glad to take it and welcome you to their meetings.

Voting membership is reserved to woman who hold pilot certificates. They have a
FWP non-voting status for woman who are not yet licensed.

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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Big John wrote:

I refuse to support United Way and any other organization who
discriminates against the BSA.

But organizations that discriminate against children are ok?

Margy

"As a licensed woman pilot (current or not), you are invited to become a
part of our legacy as the first and only international organization of
women
pilots."

How does one explain the above discrimination by the 99s.

Men are not excluded from the 99s. I'm sure if you want to pony up the
membership fee they would be glad to take it and welcome you to their
meetings.

From what I saw on their WEB site that is simply not true. To be a member
you must
be a licensed female pilot.

At school I had an aviation club and a "women in aviation" club. I did
this
because at the first meeting I knew my two quiet little girls would not
stay
with my loud boys. I didn't say the boys couldn't join the women in
aviation
club and if they wanted to come they could.

Margy