Riddle me this, pilots

(Ben Jackson) wrote in message news:EQf0b.149627$Oz4.41062@rwcrnsc54...
In article ,
Chip Jones wrote:
In the most professionally bored voice I can muster, I key up and say "Baron
123, traffic alert, traffic two o'clock, two miles converging from the right
indicating 7000, suggest you turn right heading 180 immediately."

Why did it get that far? If I'm the Baron I'm thinking, "I can't see
the traffic, I won't see the traffic in IMC, why is this guy waiting
for me to spot this plane?"

Ben, you raise a good point, but if I'm the Baron, I would have been
re-stating "Baron 1234 is IMC" and at the second call "negative contact,
we're IMC, *request vector for traffic*.

IMO the PIC has a responsibility to be pro-active here.

If you *believed* that he was really in
the soup, why not just pretend the VFR target was a lost-comms IFR
guy and gotten the Baron out of the way?

Just to point out here, Chip isn't working the "VFR" target, he
has no idea what this guy's intentions really are. Coulda been
an instrument training flight climbing up to get cool and about
to start practicing steep turns or the like. Kinda complicates
getting other people out of the way, I would think.

Cheers,
Sydney

In article ,
Snowbird wrote:
If you *believed* that he was really in
the soup, why not just pretend the VFR target was a lost-comms IFR
guy and gotten the Baron out of the way?

Just to point out here, Chip isn't working the "VFR" target, he

I know, but it worries me that just because the VFR-in-IMC guy is
breaking the rules, the controller is left in a position where due
to regulations and habit/mindset he is unable to resolve[*] a traffic
situation that would otherwise be routine. In software this is one
of those "can't happen" cases. You "can't" have a guy in IMC that's
not on an IFR flightplan converging with an IFR plane. So the regs
don't allow for it and anyone evaluating the situation tries to make
it fit into one of the other categories instead.
[*] obviously no metal was bent here, but the Baron used his emergency
authority to deviate from his clearance trying to get out of the way.

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Ben Jackson

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