About those anti-aviatoin newsgroups

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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Of course they are. These bills say, in essence, "gays will not be
granted the right to marry". I don't know how much more clearly someone's
rights
can be denied.


Which bills say that? I've seen nothing that remotely suggests that.

[...] In your example, the Scouts (or any other group) would
quite deservedly have earned the wrath of the School Board and the Civil
Rights community by arbitrarily banning members based on skin color or
religion.

And therein lies the crux of the disagreement (contrary to what was said
earlier by someone else).

You apparently think that sexual preference is different from race, and is
not one that should be protected. Maybe you think it's some kind of
option.

No, Peter, this has nothing to do with whether homosexuality is a lifestyle
"choice" or not. (I personally don't believe anyone would choose such a
difficult path for themselves.)

This has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that skin color or religious
preference is patently and demonstrably harmless, while sexual attraction is
potentially and demonstrably harmful -- especially in groups of pre-teen
boys (and girls).

I wouldn't want my Girl Scout daughter chaperoned overnight by a male troop
leader, either, for fear of what might happen. How is this any different
than having a homosexual Boy Scout leader?

THAT is an "apples and apples" comparison.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Which is why the Confederate Air Force changed its name, even though the
name had nothing to do with commemorating the CSA or the War Between the
States.

What did the the word "Confederate" refer to? Anyone know?

"Maule Driver" wrote in message
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| "C J Campbell" wrote in message
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| Which is why the Confederate Air Force changed its name, even though the
| name had nothing to do with commemorating the CSA or the War Between the
| States.
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| What did the the word "Confederate" refer to? Anyone know?
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IIRC it referred to its organizational structure.

"Gary L. Drescher" wrote in message
news:NMn0b.199096$o%2.91497@sccrnsc02...
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| I don't doubt that there may be one or two people on the face of the
planet
| with access to Usenet who have typed in such an idea (though your past
| misquotes of me and others have been so egregious that I can't just take
| your word for it). What I disputed is your claim that "numerous
activists"
| take that position--a position which is in fact eschewed by every
gay-rights
| organization I know of.
|

Well, I don't know about 'egregious,' but I do not intentionally misquote
you or anybody else. In view, however, of your tendency to contradict
yourself and to try to change the meaning of what you say, I can understand
how you might think that others are misquoting you.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Well, I don't know about 'egregious,' but I do not intentionally misquote
you or anybody else.

I never said it was intentional or that you're lying. I think you
reflexively fabricate convenient facts, and then turn around and sincerely
believe your own fabrications. For instance, I'd bet you actually believe
your claim that there are many gay-rights groups that exclude straight
members and meet in public schools, despite your apparently having never
encountered even a single example.

--Gary

| "C J Campbell" wrote in message
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| Which is why the Confederate Air Force changed its name, even though
the
| name had nothing to do with commemorating the CSA or the War Between
the
| States.
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| What did the the word "Confederate" refer to? Anyone know?
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IIRC it referred to its organizational structure.

That might be a bit revisionist. I see according to the American Heritage
Airmuseum page at http://www.airpowermuseum.org/aahmhist.html
"Over the years, a small museum began to grow as World War II artifacts were
donated to the CAF. In 1965, the first museum building consisting of 26,000
square feet was completed at old Rebel Field, Mercedes, Texas.
The CAF created a new Rebel Field at Harlingen, Texas, when they moved there
in 1968, occupying three large buildings."

Sounds like some good 'ol boys commemorating the CSA, the War and the Rebel
cause. Seems like a reasonable explanation for the times. Great
organization filled with great people, great airplanes and a better name.

No need to change history, just improve the future.

Dave Stadt wrote:

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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Big John wrote:

I refuse to support United Way and any other organization who
discriminates against the BSA.

But organizations that discriminate against children are ok?

Margy

"As a licensed woman pilot (current or not), you are invited to become a
part of our legacy as the first and only international organization of women
pilots."

How does one explain the above discrimination by the 99s.

Men are not excluded from the 99s. I'm sure if you want to pony up the
membership fee they would be glad to take it and welcome you to their meetings.
At school I had an aviation club and a "women in aviation" club. I did this
because at the first meeting I knew my two quiet little girls would not stay
with my loud boys. I didn't say the boys couldn't join the women in aviation
club and if they wanted to come they could.

Margy

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message ...

Pedophilia is a different situation than having a gay troop leader. Just
because one is gay does not make one a pedophile.

And there have certainly been lots of experience with heterosexual pedophile
in the BSA. Pedophilia does not seem to be particularly oriented to M/F sexual
orientation.

Big John wrote:

Margy

But you are attracting Gays and the tenor of the posts is changing.
None of the posts now have anything to do with aviation or the
aircraft noise factor thread it started out about.


Geez, this sounds like the same arguement we had a church when we hired a
minister. Hoards of gays would flock to the church because she was there.
Exactly ONE gay person joined the church because of her. The rest of the
congregation nick-named her "the hoard". Everyone had lots of fun with it.

I know it's way off topic, but that's never happened before ;-),

Margy