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"David Lesher" wrote in message ...


The other possibility is you don't have ADSL but rather its cousin
SDSL that does not share the loop. It *IS* theoritically possible
to have ADSL without a phone using the loop, but there are several
reasons it does not happen -- one is Ma could never grok the paperwork
to assign a DSLAM port to that pair,

That is the primary stopper right there. It's hard enough to set up line sharing
even when everything is straightforward. I can't imagine trying to convince them
how to do line-sharing on a line which has nothing on it to share. What telephone
number ?

Ron Natalie wrote:

"David Lesher" wrote in message ...


The other possibility is you don't have ADSL but rather its cousin
SDSL that does not share the loop. It *IS* theoritically possible
to have ADSL without a phone using the loop, but there are several
reasons it does not happen -- one is Ma could never grok the paperwork
to assign a DSLAM port to that pair,

That is the primary stopper right there. It's hard enough to set up line sharing
even when everything is straightforward. I can't imagine trying to convince them
how to do line-sharing on a line which has nothing on it to share. What telephone
number ?

I'll check the network interface tonight, but I'm pretty sure that there's no filter anywhere
near the house. IIRC, the installer said something about fiber to the pedestal, and hooking
the Y-K pair at the pedestal right to the DSLAM. Several years back a company put fiber in
the neighborhood, then went under, then SBC bought the "cable plant" of the company. I know
that my neighborhood is *VERY* different than other SBC-served DSL areas. In fact, SBC
thinks I'm a "larger business customer", and occasionally tries to bill me the same. We've
gone round-n-round on days when they change my hookup from DHCP to PPPOE. And don't get me
started on the lunacy of the phone dweeb giving me the 1-800 number for LinkSys when I tell
them that the machine connected to the DSL modem is running Linux (say it out loud)...
*sigh*

Russell Kent

"Russell Kent" wrote in message ...

I'll check the network interface tonight, but I'm pretty sure that there's no filter anywhere
near the house. IIRC, the installer said something about fiber to the pedestal, and hooking
the Y-K pair at the pedestal right to the DSLAM.

Oh, one of those. You're danged lucky you have DSL at all. The areas around here that
ran fiber to the mushrooms can't get DSL because nobody wants to put the DSLAMs in
the mushrooms. You're right, you're not linesharing.

Russell Kent writes:


I'll check the network interface tonight, but I'm pretty sure that there's no filter anywhere
near the house. IIRC, the installer said something about fiber to the pedestal, and hooking
the Y-K pair at the pedestal right to the DSLAM. Several years back a company put fiber in
the neighborhood, then went under, then SBC bought the "cable plant" of the company. I know
that my neighborhood is *VERY* different than other SBC-served DSL areas.

Yep. That's FTTC - Fiber to the Curb. It uses a separate pair from
the curb to your house. (Since it's only the local drop, Assigning
Dept. does not have to track that at all.) That explains what you
are saying. It's not ADSL as the masses get at all. The data feed
to the miniDSLAM of some kind in the pedestal comes up separate
channels from the phone lines of you and your neighbors.

Such may use ADSL for the last 100m. The reason, I suspect, is the
cost of the CPE is so low.

As you observe, it makes little economic sense -- the costs are
sky-high and it still "looks" like ADSL to Jill Winecooler.


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