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August 22nd 03, 06:44 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" writes:
wrote How would that provide proof that the collision took place in IMC? Because the guy at 7000 stated he was in IMC. That's not proof, that's a statement. The other plane was "saying" it's VMC. 
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August 23rd 03, 10:50 AM
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"Everett M. Greene" wrote in message ... That's not proof, that's a statement. The other plane was "saying" it's VMC. A pilot's report of his flight conditions is taken as fact.
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August 23rd 03, 05:15 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" writes:
"Everett M. Greene" wrote: That's not proof, that's a statement. The other plane was "saying" it's VMC. A pilot's report of his flight conditions is taken as fact. Procedurally, you are correct -- if the pilot says he's IMC, ATC handles him accordingly. However, his statement isn't a "fact" in the legal sense in that it's uncorraborated and in the situation being discussed, another pilot is "saying" it's VMC by his actions. Which of the two "facts" is correct?
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August 23rd 03, 10:59 PM
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"Everett M. Greene" wrote in message ... Procedurally, you are correct -- if the pilot says he's IMC, ATC handles him accordingly. However, his statement isn't a "fact" in the legal sense in that it's uncorraborated and in the situation being discussed, another pilot is "saying" it's VMC by his actions. Which of the two "facts" is correct? The pilot not communicating with ATC isn't saying anything.
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August 24th 03, 07:53 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" writes:
"Everett M. Greene" wrote Procedurally, you are correct -- if the pilot says he's IMC, ATC handles him accordingly. However, his statement isn't a "fact" in the legal sense in that it's uncorraborated and in the situation being discussed, another pilot is "saying" it's VMC by his actions. Which of the two "facts" is correct? The pilot not communicating with ATC isn't saying anything. Actions speak louder than (as loud as) words. If the other pilot believes it to be VMC, he doesn't have to talk to ATC and can pass through any altitude desired to or from a VFR altitude.
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August 24th 03, 10:14 PM
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"Everett M. Greene" wrote in message ... Actions speak louder than (as loud as) words. If the other pilot believes it to be VMC, he doesn't have to talk to ATC and can pass through any altitude desired to or from a VFR altitude. There's no evidence that the VFR pilot was not in VMC at all times.
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