Sennheiser ANR

Greg wrote:

Has anybody tried the Sennheiser ANRs?

I bought two a couple years ago. I still get ****ed at their latest ads ("simply
the best").

Ok. They're comfortable. Not quite as good as the Bose, but much better than my
Sigtronics. The speaker quality is worse than my Sigtronics or Bose, and the
microphone quality is very poor (about the same as a set of low-end Peltors).
The ANR is excellent, but what good does it do if you can't understand ATC or
the person in the right seat? I'd sell mine in a New York second if I wouldn't
take a bath doing that....

Hum.....

On second thought. They're great!!! Bose is just an overpriced copy of these!
I just happen to have two almost new sets I'll let you have for $500 each. I
have the battery pack for them too!

George Patterson
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the
good fortune to run into the ones I like, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Greg wrote:

Has anybody tried the Sennheiser ANRs?

I bought two a couple years ago. I still get ****ed at their latest ads ("simply
the best").

Ok. They're comfortable. Not quite as good as the Bose, but much better than my
Sigtronics. The speaker quality is worse than my Sigtronics or Bose, and the
microphone quality is very poor (about the same as a set of low-end Peltors).
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I most sincerely doubt that. Sennheiser mikes are *the leading* stage,
theater and philharmony equipment. Maybe you should adjust sensitivity
(little screw directly on the mike), ask their customer support or
directly Mr. Feldbauer, their rep. Usually they are very helpful. For
example as my friend got his HDC200 on the eBay, he needed to adapt
the HDC300 4xAA battery pack for the older HDC200 and they send him
wiring schematics to so by himself.

Thomas

The ANR is excellent, but what good does it do if you can't understand ATC or
the person in the right seat? I'd sell mine in a New York second if I wouldn't
take a bath doing that....

Hum.....

On second thought. They're great!!! Bose is just an overpriced copy of these!
I just happen to have two almost new sets I'll let you have for $500 each. I
have the battery pack for them too!

George Patterson
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the
good fortune to run into the ones I like, and the eyesight to tell the
difference.

ThomasH writes:
Ok. They're comfortable. Not quite as good as the Bose, but much better than my
Sigtronics. The speaker quality is worse than my Sigtronics or Bose, and the
microphone quality is very poor (about the same as a set of low-end Peltors).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I most sincerely doubt that. Sennheiser mikes are *the leading* stage,
theater and philharmony equipment.

Sennheiser also produces *the* *leading* earphone speakers, which would
make it seem implausible that speakers on their headsets are _that_ bad.
It is not necessarily certain that they put the top-of-the-line stuff
in aviation headsets, though. _But_ judging from my experience with
their products (not limited to, but including aviation gear), I would
agree that I have a hard time believing they produce crappy headsets.

Still, George may have got a faulty headset, those things do happen,
albeit rarely with Sennheiser from what I hear.

FWIW, my HMEC300 is absolutely gorgeous.

Cheers,
Toby.
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Tobias Dussa wrote:

Still, George may have got a faulty headset, those things do happen,
albeit rarely with Sennheiser from what I hear.

If that's the case, I got two of them, though it's possible that only one has a
problem with the microphone. I have difficulty understanding ATC, which I do not
have with my old Sigtronics or my new Bose X. I used them when taking a friend
flying, and the conversation between us contained a lot of variations on "Huh?".
I recall his voice sounding exactly like someone using the Peltor 7004, which
I also own (I use it for children).

A few months after wasting my money on the Sennheisers, I walked into the Bose
booth at Oshkosh with my Sigtronics in hand and told them "If your speakers
sound as good as these, you've got a sale." After a short session with their
intercom, I walked out with a set of Bose X.

George Patterson
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely
unintentional side effect. - Linus Torvalds, speaking about Linux.

"G.R. Patterson III" writes:
Still, George may have got a faulty headset, those things do happen,
albeit rarely with Sennheiser from what I hear.
If that's the case, I got two of them, though it's possible that only one has a
problem with the microphone. I have difficulty understanding ATC, which I do not
have with my old Sigtronics or my new Bose X. I used them when taking a friend
flying, and the conversation between us contained a lot of variations on "Huh?".
I recall his voice sounding exactly like someone using the Peltor 7004, which
I also own (I use it for children).

Hm, I see. Obviously our experiences differ. Which Sennheiser models do you
own, actually?

(Don't get me wrong here, I do believe your experiences, I am just curious as
to why our experiences differ so much.)

Cheers,
Toby.
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Tobias Dussa wrote:

Hm, I see. Obviously our experiences differ. Which Sennheiser models do you
own, actually?

HMEC 300.

George Patterson
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely
unintentional side effect. - Linus Torvalds, speaking about Linux.

"G.R. Patterson III" writes:
Hm, I see. Obviously our experiences differ. Which Sennheiser models do you
own, actually?
HMEC 300.

That is exactly the model I have, too... Interesting. I assume that
the bad audio quality is there regardless to which type of intercom
the headset is hooked up? On a german aviation newsgroup, there has
been a short discussion lately that some intercoms can't handle
headsets with different mike impedances, so that may be a factor, but
I am no expert either in this sector. Other than that, I don't know.
Obviously, YMMV with Sennheiser headsets. Hm.

Cheers,
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Tobias,

I am just curious as
to why our experiences differ so much.

Headsets are an extremely personal thing. Experiences are bound to vary
hugely.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned prices, too.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert writes:
I am just curious as
to why our experiences differ so much.
Headsets are an extremely personal thing. Experiences are bound to vary
hugely.

Of course the impressions are personal, but I figure that any distortion
of sound bad enough to render speech unreadable should be universally
detectable. If my headset were borderline, audio-quality-wise, then I
would not be surprised to hear someone say there is enough distortion
to make speech unreadable, but my pair is excellent, so I am somewhat
astonished.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned prices, too.

Prices don't matter when discussing technical differences and/or
problems. Prices do matter when it comes to making decisions by
weighting the pros and cons, but not when talking about sound
quality per se. BTW, regardless of the price of their headsets as
compared to Bose or whatever, they are clearly more than capable of
producing a decent-quality pair of headphones. In fact, given their
non-aviation product line, I do expect any Sennheiser product to be
top-of-the-line, at the very least with regard to audio quality.

Thus my astonishment.

Cheers,
Toby.
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