Perfect electro-magnetic storm

"Roger Long" om wrote in
message ...
| Last weeks solar flare was a non-event except for "a few aircraft
navigation
| systems" as NPR put it. The one that erupted this morning and will reach
| earth Wednesday or Thursday is believed by astronomers to be possibly the
| largest since the invention of the integrated circuit.
|

Well, that flare is due here today. The news media are hysterical, talking
about the enormous danger to aircraft navigation systems. NPR has gone
absolutely ballistic. The general public should be whipped into a frenzy,
fearing that it will start raining airplanes any second.

Of course, the 'fair and balanced media' (and I do not mean just FOX, here),
will report tomorrow that nothing serious happened. Right? I mean, they do
admit when they are wrong, don't they?

Homie, Homie, Homie.

Life becomes bliss when you break the info-tainment habit. g

My sister's ex is a (_____) fill in the blank. I, however, never get upset
when I'm around him. I expect this from him and he seldom disappoints. Zero
energy is expended, on my part, hoping he will become something that he
isn't. My idiotic sister still gets in arguments with him. For me it's Hi
Dave, how you doing?

--
Montblack
"Styled by the laws of nature.............Concorde"

("C J Campbell" wrote)
snip
Of course, the 'fair and balanced media' (and I do not mean just FOX,
here),
will report tomorrow that nothing serious happened. Right? I mean, they do
admit when they are wrong, don't they?

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:02:08 -0600, "Montblack"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

While the usual inanity contained in articles posted by Montblack are
easily dismissed, this caught my eye:

"Styled by the laws of nature.............Concorde"


It seems that the next generation of supersonic airliners may be
permitted to fly over the US (to the west coast where I reside):



http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/ne...rticle01.shtml
The shape of jets to come

AS TICKETS for Concorde's final flight go on sale this week, an
American aerospace company has demonstrated a way to modify a
supersonic jet to dramatically reduce its sonic boom. The work
could pave the way for a new generation of business jets quiet
enough to fly at supersonic speed over populated areas.

Sonic booms are one of the biggest drawbacks of supersonic flight.
They are the sharp thunderclaps caused by shock waves created at
the nose and tail of an aircraft meeting as they travel to the
ground. Where the shock waves overlap they reinforce each other,
creating the boom. Concorde's boom is so loud that it is forbidden
from flying at supersonic speeds over land.

In the 1970s, Richard Seebass and Albert George at Cornell
University in New York came up with a straightforward way to
counter the problem. They reasoned that a shock wave would be
weaker if it were spread out over a larger area. This could be
achieved by replacing a plane's sharp nose with a blunter shape
and redesigning parts of the wings, for example where the base of
the wing meets the fuselage, so that the angles between surfaces
do not change so sharply. The idea was to allow the shock waves to
form over larger areas of the aircraft's surface. Years of
computer modelling and wind tunnel tests have validated the
concept, but it had never been tried in flight.

Now the American aerospace company Northrop Grumman ...



http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993616
...
New chapter

A supersonic successor will be very different in design, Jackson
told New Scientist: "There will be such an interval before any
supersonic transport gets going again, that we'll start on a
separate chapter of air travel."

Bill Gunston, editor of Jane's Aero Engines and author of the book
Faster Than Sound, believes dramatic improvements in aerodynamics
over the last 30 years would now make it possible to build a much
far more efficient supersonic craft than Concorde. He says the
airplane's lift-to-drag ratio means it requires very powerful
engines and huge amounts of fuel.

"Any capable design outfit could design something vastly superior
to Concorde," Junston told New Scientist.
...


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030929/12/e9q0q.html
Monday September 29, 04:00 PM

Curvy aircraft could silence sonic booms
By David L. Chandler

As tickets for Concorde's final flight go on sale this week, an
American aerospace company has demonstrated a way to modify a
supersonic jet to dramatically reduce its sonic boom.

The work could pave the way for a new generation of business jets
quiet enough to fly at supersonic speed over populated areas.

Sonic booms are one of the biggest drawbacks of supersonic flight.
They are the thunderclaps caused when shock waves created at the
nose and tail of an aircraft meet as they travel to the ground.
Where the shock waves overlap they reinforce each other, creating
the boom. Concorde's boom is so loud that the plane is forbidden
from flying at supersonic speeds over land.

In the 1970s, Richard Seebass and Albert George at Cornell
University in Ithaca, New York, came up with a straightforward way
to counter the problem. They reasoned that a shock wave would be
weaker if it were spread out over a larger area.

This could be achieved by replacing a plane's sharp nose with a
blunter shape and redesigning parts of the wings, for example
where the base of the wing meets the fuselage, so that the angles
between surfaces do not change so abruptly.

The idea was to force the shock waves to fan out more rapidly as
they move away from these curves, spreading out their energy.
Years of computer modelling and wind tunnel tests have validated
the concept, but it had never been tried in flight.

Now the American aerospace company Northrop Grumman has ...

A. You forgot the :-) .....g
See what I did there Larry,? I grinned the smiley.

B. I stole that sig line from somebody's post - Dave, in the Three Concordes
thread.

C. I'm going to have a beer - before noon, to celebrate being called inane
by LD. Inane Alert That pre-noon beer will sure take me back to my brewery
days. Ahhh, good times.

D. Dismissed!! Oh well. At least you didn't *plonk* me - did you? Larry?
Hello....

--
Montblack
"Just the usual inanity "


"Larry Dighera"
While the usual inanity contained in articles posted by Montblack are
easily dismissed, this caught my eye:

"Styled by the laws of nature.............Concorde"

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:01:48 -0600, "Montblack"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

B. I stole that sig line from somebody's post - Dave, in the Three Concordes
thread.

The signature is worthy of plagiarizing. :-)

C. I'm going to have a beer - before noon, to celebrate being called inane
by LD.

I did not call YOU inane. I was referring to the often shallow
attempts at humor you routinely post. At least the signature line is
aviation related. Some folks like to read attempts at humor; I prefer
information.

D. Dismissed!! Oh well. At least you didn't *plonk* me - did you? Larry?
Hello....

While I completely understand readers taking responsibility for the
content they view in newsgroups; that is as it should be. Personally,
I find "head-in-the-sand" censorship to be as repugnant as any other
form of censorship. I take the good with along with the bad, so to
speak. C'est la vie. No?

("Larry Dighera" wrote)
snippy
I did not call YOU inane. I was referring to the often shallow
attempts at humor you routinely post. At least the signature line is
aviation related. Some folks like to read attempts at humor; I prefer
information.

And I enjoy your attempts at information Larry :-)

"Cat fight" was funny! Not shallow - funny.

"I know funny" is a quote from Good Morning Vietnam (1987) Unfortunately the
next line is "...and that's not funny." Let's move on ...

I was at a banquet Saturday night talking with the guy who organized the
National Air Tour. He mostly flew the Pilatus support plane. Talk about
funny stories - he's got some about the tour. ...but those stories are not
welcome here no more. :-(

This isn't a PhD dissertation newsgroup, it's a hangar flying newsgroup. We
all have our own styles. Mine is more relaxed and well, playful - for lack
of a better word. Shallow it is not! Says me.

So there.

- Airplane (1980)

(See, much of what I post is aviation related.)

--
Montblack
"Just the usual inanity"

Montblack wrote:

And I enjoy your attempts at information Larry :-)

ROTFL!

George Patterson
You can dress a hog in a tuxedo, but he still wants to roll in the mud.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:52:10 -0600, "Montblack"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

And I enjoy your attempts at information Larry :-)

Thank you.

If you'll take the time to read the charter of this newsgroup , you'll
note the first word is 'information' not 'jocularity', but pertinent
INFORMATION.

The charter of rec.aviation.piloting is:


************************************************** **************************
* Information pertinent to pilots of general aviation aircraft
* which would not fall into one of the other non-misc
* rec.aviation groups. Topics include, but are not limited to
* flying skills, interesting sights, destinations, flight
* characteristics of aircraft, unusual situations, handling
* emergencies, working with air traffic control, international
* flights, customs and immigration, experiences with ground
* support facilities, etc.

************************************************** **************************

Perhaps it's time to charter a new newsgroup:
rec.aviation.hangar-flying. We could post a Request For Discussion in
the rec.aviation.* hierarchy. Just a thought. And then those who
thrive on frivolity can have a place all their own to share their
pearls with each other. We could imposed an X-Archive=no header
requirement for articles posted to rec.aviation.hangar-flying, so that
the articles would be excluded from the public archive. Perhaps you'd
be willing to shoulder the task of drafting a charter for the proposed
newsgroup.

I see the intended content of rec.aviation.piloting more as an
informational resource and news exchange medium among responsible
airmen, than a hee-haw party line despite the fact that many would
prefer to reduce it to that. The choice is ours.

I was at a banquet Saturday night talking with the guy who organized the
National Air Tour. He mostly flew the Pilatus support plane. Talk about
funny stories - he's got some about the tour. ...but those stories are not
welcome here no more. :-(

Your self-imposed restraint is noted (despite your double-negative).

Perhaps the substance of the "guys" talk would be a more appropriate
subject for you to share with us in this PUBLIC forum.

This isn't a PhD dissertation newsgroup, it's a hangar flying newsgroup.

What you overlook is the PUBLIC nature of usenet in general (which is
publicly archived for posterity), and specifically the image of pilots
the lay public carries away from reading rec.aviation.piloting.
Again, the choice is ours.

In this time, when GA is being singled out as an expendable "kick dog"
by those bureaucracies in charge of national security, the military,
and airlines, ..., I believe it is in the best interest of all airmen
to put forth to the public our best face, our sober dedication to
responsibility and professionalism, rather than portray ourselves the
as frivolous clowns recklessly cavorting over the heads of the
ground-bound public as the media continually attempt.

Perhaps we should all consider how what we're about to post reflects
on our fellows. My fear is, that if we fail to police ourselves,
restrictive measures will be arbitrarily imposed upon us by those with
the power to advance their own agenda. Please, let's don't give them
any ammunition here.

I realize that my views will likely be ridiculed by those who are
incapable of understanding the issue, and those who thrive on chaos
and frivolity. That is the price I will pay for speaking up for what
I believe is right. I choose to personally suffer those "slings and
arrows" if it will in any way stem the loss of our right to navigate
the skies.

I can see that you are capable of willing restraint by your decision
to refrain from publicly posting the "funny stories" you mentioned
above. Thank you.

For our own good, I would strongly urge all airmen to emphasize our
sober dedication to responsible airmanship when in view of the public
as we are in this publicly archived forum.




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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
I did not call YOU inane. I was referring to the often shallow
attempts at humor you routinely post.

Personally, I find Montblack's "often shallow attempts at humor" to be quite
entertaining. Granted, I really enjoy bad puns too, so maybe I'm not the
best judge.

Montblack, don't you dare let Larry disuade you from your usual writing.
Some of us find your posts to be a welcome breath of fresh air in a forum
that is too often confrontational and overly serious. If all I wanted was
information, I'd spend my time reading the encyclopedia.

Pete

Montblack, don't you dare let Larry disuade you from your usual writing.
Some of us find your posts to be a welcome breath of fresh air in a forum
that is too often confrontational and overly serious. If all I wanted was
information, I'd spend my time reading the encyclopedia.

Hear, Hear! Three cheers for Montblack, and his "shallow attempts at
humor"!

Without which, BTW, my day would be incomplete.

(I, too, live a shallow life... Pass that pitcher of beer down, Montblack!
;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"