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Old October 30th 03, 12:53 PM
Paul Sengupta
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The flight tests in the UK magazines say it's a fabulous aircraft
for personal transport, but it may not make such a good twin
trainer as it's just too easy, especially engine handling...they say
it doesn't prepare you for the world of Lycontosaurus and the
pilot workload needed when one fails.

Paul

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I'm starting to believe that they can do it. It looks amazing. There
was a huge thread on this earlier this year. Do a search in deja.com
(in rec.aviation) on "diamond diesel".



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Old October 30th 03, 02:01 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Paul,

So we can't have innovation because of innovation? Hmm... Sounds like a
Catch-22. We should have stayed on the trees...

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Old October 30th 03, 07:22 PM
Ben Jackson
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In article ,
Paul Sengupta wrote:
The flight tests in the UK magazines say it's a fabulous aircraft
for personal transport, but it may not make such a good twin
trainer


That's probably a good thing. The Twin Comanche got a bad rep because
of the accident statistics it accumulated as a twin trainer (back in
the day of low-altitude Vmc demonstrations).

Besides, even though it's clearly an entry-level twin, and very
reasonably priced in today's new plane market, it's still far more
expensive than typical trainer fodder like 1960s-era Apaches.

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Old October 31st 03, 10:00 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Ben,

and very
reasonably priced in today's new plane market, it's still far more
expensive than typical trainer fodder like 1960s-era Apaches.



Not necessarily if you factor in operating cost.

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Old October 31st 03, 05:54 PM
Mike Rapoport
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In article ,
Paul Sengupta wrote:
The flight tests in the UK magazines say it's a fabulous aircraft
for personal transport, but it may not make such a good twin
trainer


That's probably a good thing. The Twin Comanche got a bad rep because
of the accident statistics it accumulated as a twin trainer (back in
the day of low-altitude Vmc demonstrations).

Besides, even though it's clearly an entry-level twin, and very
reasonably priced in today's new plane market, it's still far more
expensive than typical trainer fodder like 1960s-era Apaches.

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Ben Jackson

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How can you compare a new airplane with new engines and new glass cockpit to
a clapped out Apache?

Mike
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Old October 31st 03, 06:06 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Mike,

How can you compare a new airplane with new engines and new glass cockpit to
a clapped out Apache?


Simple: Put both on the flight line at a locel FBO for a price that will not
make you lose money - and see if pilots go for new or cheap.

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Old October 31st 03, 06:18 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Simple: Put both on the flight line at a locel FBO for a price that will

not
make you lose money - and see if pilots go for new or cheap.


That doesn't compare the airplanes. It compares the pilots.


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Old October 31st 03, 06:45 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Peter,

That doesn't compare the airplanes. It compares the pilots.


I know. But it's a rather practical approach, IMHO ;-)

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Old October 31st 03, 07:02 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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I know. But it's a rather practical approach, IMHO ;-)


Yes, if you want to compare pilots, it is.


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Old November 3rd 03, 08:07 AM
Dylan Smith
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:53:03 -0000, Paul Sengupta .
ericsson.se wrote:
The flight tests in the UK magazines say it's a fabulous aircraft
for personal transport, but it may not make such a good twin
trainer as it's just too easy, especially engine handling...they say
it doesn't prepare you for the world of Lycontosaurus and the
pilot workload needed when one fails.


The economics will soon demolish that argument. When you're burning
half as much fuel at a third of the cost per litre, and the engines
last 1000 hours longer - flight schools know they can offer much better
prices with the Diamond twin. They are also new and sexy - the students
(most of whom are destined for the airlines) will prefer a flight
school that's less expensive and has shiny new planes with nice
smooth rivetless wings.

Although I like old planes (I owned a 1946 C140), if Diamond can
start the move away from the Lycontisaurus to something better,
more power to them.

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